Stefan,
A live demo of the plugins would be very good, and I'd prefer to
give the plugins lots of visibility for the 35-minute talk. I only
need about 10 minutes to demo the server translation tool and to
discuss the available language packs.
I'm a fan of brevity, so I've taken your EclipseCon 2012 submission,
shortened it, and created a catchy title. If we submit this, I
think it will be accepted :-)
Please let me know you'd like to change anything, as well as the
co-speakers, and I'll submit the talk.
Thanks!
Denis
Title: Hallo, Bonjour, 今日は, Hello! Babel tools make
internationalization easier.
Building internationalization (i18n) into your project is a pain.
Maintaining translations of your projects is another.
Fortunately, Babel tools can help with both.
TapiJI provides a rich set of smart and context-aware i18n aids
in Eclipse, assisting developers in performing i18n as part of
their day-to-day work. Babel Translation server enables
communities to participate in the translation effort using only a
web browser.
In this session we will give a brief overview and demo of TapiJI and
its main features, as well as a live translation of an Eclipse
project using the Babel Translation server.
On 11/10/2012 03:16 AM, Stefan Strobl
wrote:
Denis,
sorry for the late reply... Concerning the topics: in 1 i would
like to extend beyond the scope of Eclipse globalization, as
TapiJI (and now the Babel plugins) clearly go beyond. Maybe we can
also talk a litte about common problems when developing
internationalised software etc... In addition, what do you think
about doing a short (5 min) live demo of some of the new plugin
features?
* Here's some of the slides we used for a demo camp presentation
in late 2010 (we also did a talk in 2011, but i think we do not
have the slides online. I'll see that I can get them to you)
http://de.slideshare.net/martinreiterer/tapiji-am-eclipse-democamp
* A Demo Video we have done for our (declined) EclipseCon 2012
submission:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gDQeeIR5eU
* We are currently working on two DemoCamp presentations (Vienna
and Copenhagen). I am quite sure we can reuse some of our content
from there.
Anyway, if you could do a first draft of the abstract, that would
be great.
thank you
Stefan
PS: What do you think of proposing an additional BoF to discuss
the Babel Project and our next steps? I tried finding on the
eclipsecon web page how to do that, but couldn't find anything.
On 05.11.2012 15:50, Denis Roy wrote:
Stefan,
Kit and I have given this type of talk in the past[1]. Having
two (or three) speakers will definitely create a more
interesting dynamic.
There are essentially four topics I'd like to cover:
1. Introduction to Eclipse globalization (message files, how it
all works). You probably know more about this than I do, but we
can both share some slides.
2. The Babel server, the language packs, the pseudo
translations. This would be my area.
3. The messages editor, TapiJi. This would be your area
4. The Future of Babel @ Eclipse. Here we could briefly talk
about the possibilities of linking the messages editor to the
server, the future of the plugins, etc.
This is the slide deck of a talk that Kit gave in 2008. We can
likely recycle lots of the content and update it for 2013.
http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/sub/attachments/Introduction_to_the_Eclipse_Babel_Project.ppt
Also, these two abstracts can likely serve as a starting point
for our abstract:
http://www.eclipsecon.org/2008/?page=sub/&id=269
http://www.eclipsecon.org/2009/sessions?id=504
Stefan, if you want, I can draft up the abstract and post it
here for your edits. Then I (or yourself) can submit the talk.
Does that seem ok?
Kit, will you be joining us at ECon in Boston?
Denis
[1] I don't think I'll ever forget Nigel Westbury's funny
response: "We can mail you the translations on a diskette" to
someone who asked how to contribute without an Internet
connection.
On 11/03/2012 01:52 PM, Stefan Strobl wrote:
Denis,
we would be definitely be interested in doing a joint talk
with you on Babel and getting the news out to the community
about the progress in the Babel plugins area. From a current
perspective I should be able to attend Eclipse Con 2013 in
March and I am fairly sure that Martin would like to join as
well ;)
I think we could talk both about the new features and
enhancements of the babel plugins, the general direction where
we see it moving and some ideas and/or concepts of general
translation work (e.g. how to better support translator -
developer colaboration).
Anyway, how do you want to proceed from here? Do you want to
go straight at the required abstract or should we first start
with a general outline of the talk and then condense it into
the abstract later?
Thanks,
Stefan
On 01.11.2012 14:01, Denis Roy wrote:
Greetings,
I was thinking of proposing a Babel talk at EclipseCon 2013,
in March. My talk would have focused on the server and
community translations, but it would be much more
interesting if I could have one or two co-speakers to talk
about the plugins and about globalization techniques at a
general level.
Is anyone interested in joining me for a Babel talk @
EclipseCon?
Thanks
Denis
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