| I made a small change that now groups JARs that might be for testing
    separately. I think it prunes down the list quite nicely. There's
    still more work to do. 
 Wayne
 
 On 05/30/2012 12:12 AM, David M Williams wrote:
 
      
       Thanks Neil ... Trying the URL with Opera worked fine,
        so ... not sure what's up with Firefox "sessions".  But,
        I opened bug 
          380981  and hope that bug report is helpful. 
      
 So, looking at the list, there are a few that do have
        CQ's ... somewhere ... so not sure if the scanning tool doesn't
        "recognize"
        them, or if the tool is saying a certain sub-project doesn't
        have one ...
        if the later, for the generic "webtools" URL, it would not be
        able to distinguish between subprojects, such as there are some
        "incubator"
        things in there (which is where, for example, the antlr jar
        "comes
        from" and fairly sure they have a cq for it).
 
 An example of one that seems not mapped correctly
        to their corresponding CQs (by the scanning tool), I assume is.
 saaj.jar (No CQ found) --> 
          2089
 
 Other than that, don't think I have anything to add
        that's not obvious or been said. Just the first time the whole
        site has
        been "audited". Previously, just "releasing code" was.
 
 Well, that, plus the tools seems to pick up a lot
        of noise from test plugins. A great great many in the list, are
        very plain
        and simply obvious jars inside of normal (directory-form)
        bundles, such
        as
 
 snippetstests.jar (No CQ found)
 /home/data/httpd/download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.3.1/R-3.3.1-20110915193224/wtp-tests-R-3.3.1-20110915193224.zip/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets.tests_1.0.300.v201004110600
 
 It appears the tool lists any jar file? Regardless
        of about.html files or if in a bundle with an about.html file?
        (And, I
        am not being critical, I am sympathetic ... I know it is hard to
        make these
        type of scanning tools work perfectly, but that they are very
        important
        ... I hope feature enhancements or bugs are tracked somewhere
        since some
        of these false-positive cases could be fixed).
 
 Others, such as "derby.jar" in the "presentations"
        directory would have to be examined in detail to see if its
        really something
        to do with derby third party code, or if its code that just part
        of a presentation
        on "how to use Eclipse with Derby DB". Whew.
 
 Good luck!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From:      
        Neil Hauge <neil.hauge@xxxxxxxxxx>
 To:      
        wtp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx,
 Date:      
        05/29/2012 08:46 PM
 Subject:    
          Re: [wtp-pmc]
      Issues with missing CQ entries...
 Sent by:    
          wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
 
 
 
 This appears to be a bug of some sort.   The same
      thing started happening to me recently with various Eclipse
      reporting tools.
       Wasn't sure if I was the only one.  I've only had this issue
      in Firefox, but it might just be a problem with the browser cache.
       I've
      hopped over to Chrome to work around the issue a couple of times
      and have
      had success.
 
 Neil
 
 On 5/29/2012 8:41 PM, David M Williams wrote:
 I can access that page, itself, and
      I can "see" some subsets of "webtools", like "webtools.incubator"
      "webtools.releng" (the few I tried), but if I select "webtools"
      itself in the long list of projects, I am asked to login again.
      That's
      what made me think it was related to committer rights. And, I'm
      guessing
      it is the "webtools" "container" project that has the
      interesting long list of oddities.
 Thanks,
 
 
 
 
 
 From:         Wayne
      Beaton 
        <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 To:          wtp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx  ,
 Date:         05/29/2012
      08:25 PM
 Subject:         Re:
      [wtp-pmc] Issues with missing CQ entries...
 Sent by:         
        wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
 
 
 
 Any committer should be able to access this page. You should be
      able to
      access it.
 
 http://www.eclipse.org/projects/tools/downloads.php?id=webtools
 
 Please confirm: can you access this page?
 
 Wayne
 
 On 05/29/2012 06:47 PM, David M Williams wrote:
 I can't "see" that report ... my guess it my committer ID was
        removed from the "umbrella" group, as well as the more specific
        groups?
 
 But in researching it, I discovered that we, webtools, have the
        first 8
        CQs ever put in the IPZilla database ... how's that for a
        dubious honor?
        :)
 
 While I can't see the report, I see that "webtools area" is
        defined
        as
 /home/data/httpd/download.eclipse.org/webtools/
 
 I think in the past we've only focused on "what we release"
        which
        would be what's under
 /home/data/httpd/download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops
 
 So, it wouldn't surprise me if there was stuff up there that we
        never really
        'released' and was put up there before "we" knew what we were
        doing [such as for the tutorials, tests, build tools, etc.] But,
        agree
        with Wayne (Wayne is always right, correct? :) that "anything on
        downloads"
        should be IP Clean ... and we've just never scrubed it
        ourselves, but sounds
        like Wayne is now.
 
 Without seeing the list, hard to know what to recommend ... if
        to "get
        rid" of some of the old stuff (leaving a polite webpage in its
        place,
        explaining it was removed due to age) or to push ahead and get
        CQ clearance
        (eventually) even though its not stuff we "release".I'd lean
        toward the former, but ... without seeing the list, I would not
        follow
        my advice :/
 
 Naci might know about some of the tutorials/education material
        and if any
        of that is still useful/valid?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From:         Chuck Bridgham/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
 To:          wtp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx  ,
 Date:         05/29/2012 02:29 PM
 Subject:         [wtp-pmc] Issues with missing CQ entries...
 Sent by:         
        wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
 
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Wayne emailed me earlier today as he was browsing through our IP
      log submission,
      and discovered potentially a large amount of
 third party libraries that are not tied to CQ's.
 
 If you follow this link:   
        http://www.eclipse.org/projects/tools/downloads.php?id=webtools
 
 Along with the large amount of test or sample files that are
      included in
      our junits or documentation, we also have many files that may need
      attention
       (axis, ant, commons, derby, jsr*, wsdl,  etc...)
 
 I'm going to send a note today for everyone to take a second look
      at this
      particular report.
 
 David - Since most of these "problems" are ancient file
      references,
      Is this a case of missing CQ entries?   do we simply need to map
      them
      somehow?
 
 
 Thanks - Chuck
 
 Senior Architect, RAD Java EE Tools, WTP PMC Lead
 IBM Software Lab - Research Triangle Park, NC 
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