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RE: [wtp-pmc] release review draft slide deck ACTION REQUIRED

The original reason why we chose over the Eclipse download server to be the update site is because we were waiting for legal approvals from the Eclipse foundation. In my opinion, the only advantage that gives over the Eclipse download server is the ability to throw a new prereq version out in the open without waiting at the legal approval counter. However, when we do decide that a new prereq version is needed, we probably have to go through some remarkable testing anyway. Thinking optimistically, if we ask for legal approval early (just when we are thinking about updating the prereq version), then the time it takes to obtain legal approval should not be too far off from the time it takes to do everything else (testing, etc...). In that case, there should be minimal or no delay to "release" the update.

In conclusion, I think we should make the Eclipse download server our official update manager site. In addition, the Web page for the Eclipse update site can link to other update sites as friends (, JavaLobby, EclipseZone or whatever). If the friends' update sites want the new prereq version to be available earlier, that's fine. But we'll stick to the Eclipse download server as the official supported update site. Just my 2 cents.



"Ed Burnette" <Ed.Burnette@xxxxxxx>
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RE: [wtp-pmc] release review draft slide deck  ACTION REQUIRED

I had problems with's web access too. JavaLobby/EclipseZone would be happy to offer a free area to host the update site. Let me know if you're interested.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:wtp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Max Rydahl Andersen
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:46 AM
> To: WTP PMC communications (including coordination,
> announcements, and Group discussions)
> Cc: csalter@xxxxxxxxxx; David M Williams; Naci Dai
> Subject: Re: [wtp-pmc] release review draft slide deck ACTION REQUIRED
> Hi,
> Just noticed a small thing in those slides that surprised me.
> It seems you are going to use to provide an update site.
> In our experience that is a bad move since the web/http feed from
> is not geared towards high volume loads of .jar file downloads.
> We had a jboss ide updates site on and we had nothing
> but problems
> with respect to timeouts and broken/incomplete downloads.
> (which eclipse  
> update
> mechanism btw. doesnt handle very gracefully :(
> Just a warning ;)
> note,'s site is very good to host file downloads
> (because they are  
> mirrored),
> but the website only works best if its small (html
> files its going  
> to host.
> An eclipse update site doesn't fall under a normal website IMO ;)
> /max
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