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RE: [wtp-dev] BEA WebLogic Server support in WTP 2.0
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Lawrence,
Thanks for the questions. It's good to have these
discussions in the open.
As you've noted, this move is consistent with the broad WTP
strategy of having server vendors provide and distribute their own server
adapters instead of housing adapters for every conceivable server type in the
WTP code base. Having said that, the plans presented in this e-mail should not
be interpreted as final. Until this e-mail, only a few members of the WTP
community were made aware of this and so the purpose of this e-mail (and
the copy that I posted to the wtp news group) is to gather comments and feedback
from the broad WTP community.
Some additional background information might be useful
here... The open-source WLS adapters that are part of the WTP code base are
built using Gorkem's excellent generic server framework which makes it
super-easy to throw together a server adapter, but does not yield in an
industrial-strength solution. Since their initial creation, these adapters
have not received much attention. It is of obvious benefit to both BEA
and WTP users who write apps for the WebLogic Server that the WLS
adapters are first rate. To this end, BEA has made a commitment to
freely offer the WLS adapters that are currently part of BEA Workshop to all of
the WTP community. This represents a substantial investment on the part of BEA
and we see this as big step forward for the entire community. The reason that it
is critical to retire the WLS adapters that are part of WTP is that having
multiple adapters for the same server available creates massive amounts of user
confusion. We've tried that while building BEA Workshop and finally had to
perform surgery on WTP distribution that we ship on in order to remove the WTP
adapters.
Let me know if there are any other
questions.
- Konstantin
Kosta, Admittedly I haven't been following the development of
the server adapters shipped with WTP so my questions and comments that follow
may have already been answered. If this is the case, sorry for the churn.
Your statement below sounds like BEA made
the decision to remove the WLS adapters without the involvement of the WTP
community. 1. Was the WTP community
consulted to see their reaction to this change? 2. Did the Server Tools component owner (and possibly PMC) agree to the
removal of the Open Source, EPL licensed WTP WLS server adapters?
The move from WTP hosted to BEA
hosted adapters seems consistent with the WTP plan to have third party server
producers provide their own server adapters. However the move from Open Source
to proprietary adapters means these Open Source adapters will no longer be
available from Eclipse. Removing Open Source components in favour of proprietary
adapters may affect WTP users. Thanks,
Lawrence
Mandel
Software Developer
IBM Rational Software
Phone: 905 - 413 -
3814 Fax: 905 - 413 - 4920
lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx
"Konstantin Komissarchik"
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| [wtp-dev] BEA WebLogic Server
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For WTP 2.0, BEA is planning on providing server adapters for versions
8.1, 9.0, 9.1, 9.2 and 10.0 of WLS that are downloadable from a BEA update site
rather than relying on WLS adapters that are currently bundled with WTP. The
adapters that will be provided will be taken from BEA Workshop code base, thus
extending the benefits of tight WTP/WLS integration already enjoyed by Workshop
users to the broader WTP community. In order to reduce user confusion, the
open-source WLS adapters that are currently bundled with WTP will be removed
from the WTP distribution and discontinued.
This change will be rolled out in stages:
Stage 1: The open-source WLS adapters will be removed
from the WTP code base and replaced with a pointer to a BEA update site. The
removed adapters will then be placed on the BEA update site together with the
source to comply with EPL requirements. This will happen in the next couple of
weeks.
Stage 2: The new WLS adapters will be rolled out to
the BEA update site (thus replacing and discontinuing the open-source versions)
to coincide with WTP 2.0 GA this summer.
How will this impact the user? In a basic WTP
installation, the user will no longer see WLS listed in the list of available
servers out of the box. The user will have to click on the "Don't see your
server listed? Click here" link in the "New Server Runtime" wizard. That will
bring up another wizard that will connect to registered update sites and will
allow the user to download and install WLS adapters into the WTP installation.
After the first install, the user will be able to use standard Eclipse
update-site facilities to search for updates to these plugins. BEA will also
provide a way to download a bundle of plugins containing the WLS adapters for
administrators who need to create Eclipse distributions for offline
users.
Questions? Comments?
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