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RE: [wtp-dev] BEA WebLogic Server support in WTP 2.0
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Kosta,
Thanks for the reply. I agree with your
point about user confusion. We should do what we can to make things easier
for our end users.
As long as this decision is not final
before the WTP community has a chance to voice any concern over this move
I think everything else is in line.
Lawrence Mandel
Software Developer
IBM Rational Software
Phone: 905 - 413 - 3814 Fax: 905 - 413 - 4920
lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx
"Konstantin Komissarchik"
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Lawrence,
Thanks for the questions. It's
good to have these discussions in the open.
As you've noted, this move is
consistent with the broad WTP strategy of having server vendors provide
and distribute their own server adapters instead of housing adapters for
every conceivable server type in the WTP code base. Having said that, the
plans presented in this e-mail should not be interpreted as final. Until
this e-mail, only a few members of the WTP community were made aware of
this and so the purpose of this e-mail (and the copy that I posted to the
wtp news group) is to gather comments and feedback from the broad WTP community.
Some additional background information
might be useful here... The open-source WLS adapters that are part of the
WTP code base are built using Gorkem's excellent generic server framework
which makes it super-easy to throw together a server adapter, but does
not yield in an industrial-strength solution. Since their initial creation,
these adapters have not received much attention. It is of obvious benefit
to both BEA and WTP users who write apps for the WebLogic Server that the
WLS adapters are first rate. To this end, BEA has made a commitment to
freely offer the WLS adapters that are currently part of BEA Workshop to
all of the WTP community. This represents a substantial investment on the
part of BEA and we see this as big step forward for the entire community.
The reason that it is critical to retire the WLS adapters that are part
of WTP is that having multiple adapters for the same server available creates
massive amounts of user confusion. We've tried that while building BEA
Workshop and finally had to perform surgery on WTP distribution that we
ship on in order to remove the WTP adapters.
Let me know if there are any other
questions.
- Konstantin
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[mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mandel
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:49 PM
To: General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] BEA WebLogic Server support in WTP 2.0
Kosta,
Admittedly I haven't been following the development of the server adapters
shipped with WTP so my questions and comments that follow may have already
been answered. If this is the case, sorry for the churn.
Your statement below sounds like BEA made the decision to remove the WLS
adapters without the involvement of the WTP community.
1. Was the WTP community consulted to see their reaction to this change?
2. Did the Server Tools component owner (and possibly PMC) agree to the
removal of the Open Source, EPL licensed WTP WLS server adapters?
The move from WTP hosted to BEA hosted adapters seems consistent with the
WTP plan to have third party server producers provide their own server
adapters. However the move from Open Source to proprietary adapters means
these Open Source adapters will no longer be available from Eclipse. Removing
Open Source components in favour of proprietary adapters may affect WTP
users.
Thanks,
Lawrence Mandel
Software Developer
IBM Rational Software
Phone: 905 - 413 - 3814 Fax: 905 - 413 - 4920
lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx
"Konstantin Komissarchik"
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For WTP 2.0, BEA is planning on providing server adapters for versions
8.1, 9.0, 9.1, 9.2 and 10.0 of WLS that are downloadable from a BEA update
site rather than relying on WLS adapters that are currently bundled with
WTP. The adapters that will be provided will be taken from BEA Workshop
code base, thus extending the benefits of tight WTP/WLS integration already
enjoyed by Workshop users to the broader WTP community. In order to reduce
user confusion, the open-source WLS adapters that are currently bundled
with WTP will be removed from the WTP distribution and discontinued.
This change will be rolled out in stages:
Stage 1: The open-source WLS adapters will
be removed from the WTP code base and replaced with a pointer to a BEA
update site. The removed adapters will then be placed on the BEA update
site together with the source to comply with EPL requirements. This will
happen in the next couple of weeks.
Stage 2: The new WLS adapters will be rolled
out to the BEA update site (thus replacing and discontinuing the open-source
versions) to coincide with WTP 2.0 GA this summer.
How will this impact the user? In a basic
WTP installation, the user will no longer see WLS listed in the list of
available servers out of the box. The user will have to click on the "Don't
see your server listed? Click here" link in the "New Server Runtime"
wizard. That will bring up another wizard that will connect to registered
update sites and will allow the user to download and install WLS adapters
into the WTP installation. After the first install, the user will be able
to use standard Eclipse update-site facilities to search for updates to
these plugins. BEA will also provide a way to download a bundle of plugins
containing the WLS adapters for administrators who need to create Eclipse
distributions for offline users.
Questions? Comments?
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