Re: [tycho-dev] [technology-pmc] Release Reviews

["Oberlies, Tobias" <tobias.oberlies@xxxxxxx>]

My bad. I had added them to the portal, but they are removed now.
Tobias


> -----Original Message-----
> From: tycho-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tycho-dev-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Igor Fedorenko
> Sent: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2012 17:32
> To: tycho-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tycho-dev] [technology-pmc] Release Reviews
> 
> I am not sure who/why added those 'release' entries in the portal, I
> think they should be removed.
> 
> --
> Regards,
> Igor
> 
> On 12-06-19 11:26 AM, Wayne Beaton wrote:
> > The project metadata lists several "releases". Release has a pretty
> > specific meaning at Eclipse. Can you either remove the entries, or
> > rename them as milestones (e.g. 0.15.0M0)?
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > On 06/19/2012 09:01 AM, Oberlies, Tobias wrote:
> >> @Wayne: After the discussion we had about milestones vs. releases in
> Tycho, I added a note that all Tycho versions are milestones according
> to the Eclipse nomenclature:http://wiki.eclipse.org/Tycho/Release_Notes
> >>
> >> I'd agree to a release review for the next Tycho version (0.16.0).
> As Jan already stated, this is the first non-milestone release that is
> possible, because some of Tycho's initial contribution CQs were finally
> approved last week.
> >>
> >> IMHO, graduation is a different topic, and just like Igor I have my
> doubts that we'll be ready by the end of Kepler.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Tobias
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From:tycho-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx  [mailto:tycho-dev-
> >>> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Igor Fedorenko
> >>> Sent: Montag, 18. Juni 2012 22:16
> >>> To: Technology PMC
> >>> Cc:tycho-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: Re: [tycho-dev] [technology-pmc] Release Reviews
> >>>
> >>> Wayne,
> >>>
> >>> These are builds we publish for community testing and I am trying
> to
> >>> call them as such -- "tycho builds" [1]. We do sometime call these
> >>> builds "release builds", but this is a reference to terminology
> used in
> >>> Maven versioning scheme and has nothing to do with "releases" in
> >>> Eclipse
> >>> sense of the word. These builds serve the same purpose as S builds
> of
> >>> other Eclipse projects and I believe we actually do what everybody
> else
> >>> does.
> >>>
> >>> As for releasing Tycho with Kepler, I see at least two problems
> >>>
> >>> First, and foremost, Tycho is not quite ready for "1.0" just yet.
> We
> >>> are
> >>> still evolving Tycho-specific pom.xml configuration format, which
> and
> >>> Tycho extensions API is simply not there. We may or may not have
> this
> >>> ready for Kepler, but I am not comfortable committing to this.
> >>>
> >>> Second, I honestly don't see any advantages for Tycho to "join the
> >>> train". Tycho can't be part of the release repository and I don't
> want
> >>> to link Tycho release schedule with 200 or so other projects just
> for
> >>> the sake of it.
> >>>
> >>> [1]http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tycho-user/msg02558.html
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Igor
> >>>
> >>> On 12-06-18 3:57 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote:
> >>>> Resending after subscribing to tycho-dev.
> >>>>
> >>>> Eclipse projects are required to engage in community reviews
> before
> >>>> making a release.
> >>>>
> >>>> AFAICT, there are six releases of Tycho that should have been
> >>>> accompanied by release reviews. Any time the major or minor
> version
> >>>> numbers change, a review is required (changes in the service
> number,
> >>>> i.e. a service release) do not require a review.
> >>>>
> >>>> I do recall prior conversation in which the nature of releasing in
> >>> the
> >>>> context of Tycho was discussed. I understand that a new version
> >>> number
> >>>> is required for each milestone due to the nature of dissemination
> >>>> through Maven. This isn't what I'm concerned about.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tycho appears to be putting out a minor release about every four
> >>> months.
> >>>> Each of these releases must be accompanied by a release review.
> >>> There's
> >>>> nothing that we can do about the past. Moving forward, however,
> Tycho
> >>>> will have to engage in release reviews like everybody else.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you need assistance with this, please work with the project
> >>> mentors.
> >>>> I would very much like to see Tycho graduate and join Kepler.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wayne
> >>>> --
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