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Re: [starter-dev] Cleanup/Reconiliation

To be honest, the time zones are all over the place if we count potential solid contributors from Asia like Hantsy Bai. I don’t remember now what the poll options were, but if we do a fresh one, it’s best to have a wide array of options and see where things land

Personally I don’t think we should focus on just the latest version. We pretty much already have multi-version support, all the other starters support multiple versions, not all popular runtimes support all versions so quickly (TomEE certainly comes to mind), and user adoption also has historically lagged significantly (indeed what I see from customers is that Jakarta EE 8/Java SE 8 is alive and well, possibly will remain so for some time). We could certainly keep statistics in the UI for version usage and cut less popular combinations in the future. It’s possible for the starter use case, newer versions matter more.

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Subject: Re: [starter-dev] Cleanup/Reconiliation

Since I haven’t touched my laptop for a week, I’m a bit late to the party...


Meeting: I think it’s a good idea to have a standup-style meeting. Having short minutes is nevertheless useful for later actions. Which time zones are involved here? Mine would be Central Europe. But I would arrange to take part at any time.


Jakarta versions: We should aim for easiness, clarity and simplicity rather than completeness. I’d favor to concentrate on the latest version and then maybe have hints in documentation or examples on how to use older ones.






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Per my knowledge, there are no in-flight changes to the Archetypes right now although Bazlur is working on getting the UI up and running.


I would like to start a holistic cleanup process on the Archetype/documentation side right away, quite possibly finishing by next weekend. I aim to essentially reconcile the code base on the decisions made so far and have a clean, cohesive, documented code base to go forward with together. I will do this via PR and notify here so we can all properly review before merging.


I am acknowledging that there is some outstanding disagreement with regards to whether we should have Archetypes per Jakarta EE version right away. I believe I can do most of the cleanup work right now while we determine how to achieve reasonable consensus in a way that aligns with Eclipse Foundation governance principles.


Please let me know in the next few days if there are questions or concerns. This is a non-trivial bit of work but it is essential and long pending.

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