Re: [platform-ui-dev] Global menu enablement

[Bob Foster <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for that excellent explanation. (You nailed me with that "turned 
autobuild off during those 2.5 years" - why would I do that? ;-)

I think you're right, given the history, it is better to not show these 
menu items than show them disabled, even though it may violate some UI 
guideline.

If I may suggest, though, "Clean" as "Rebuild" is on the "less" side of 
"more or less". I assumed "Clean" meant "clear the output folders". And 
that's what the dialog seems to say, as well. Then it says "the next 
time a build occurs..." and I'm sitting there thinking, "Ok, how do I 
make _that_ happen?" Rebuild > All projects and Rebuild > Selected 
project would be more clear and direct.

Bob

John Arthorne wrote:
> Again you're not the first to be confused.  If you had turned autobuild 
> off during those 2.5 years, you would have found four build actions in 
> the project menu:
>
> Build All
> Build Project
> Rebuild All
> Rebuild Project
>
> The first two were not in the menu when autobuild was turned on. Most 
> non-autobuild users have (understandably) never fully grokked the 
> distinction between "Build" and "Rebuild".  So, in M8 the "Rebuild" 
> action was renamed (more or less) to "Clean...". So, with autobuild off, 
> you now get:
>
> Build All
> Build Project
> Clean...
>
> This is (hopefully) clearer to non-autobuild users. Most autobuild 
> users, who had never seen "Build All" and "Build Project" before but 
> were used to seeing "Rebuild All" and "Rebuild Project" now get the 
> impression that actions that were previosly always enabled are now 
> disabled.  These are in fact completely different actions. "Clean", 
> which is the M8 replacement for the "Rebuild" actions, is still always 
> enabled. I am planning on now reverting to the old behavior of removing 
> the incremental build actions when autobuild is turned on.  You will 
> then only see "Clean..." in the project menu.  For an even more 
> long-winded explanation, see:
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/platform-core-home/documents/scoped_builds.html 
>
>
> John.
>
>
>
> platform-ui-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 04/13/2004 04:41:20 PM:
>  >
>  > Now I'm really confused. AFAIK, I've had autobuild on for 2 1/2 years
>  > and those items have always been in the menu.