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Re: [platform-dev] Impact of Windows Defender and Eclipse startup

Hi,

I came across the bug below. What triggered me from the comments on Bug 509799 is, that the 'eclipse.exe' is apparently signed as part of the EPP build. As we are pushing Eclipse-Installer now, many installations contain a 'eclipse.exe' that is not signed.

So maybe the problem is not how to let Microsoft trust the Eclipse Signature, but more how to ensure that the 'eclipse.exe' is signed on all installations.

Bug 539954 - eclipse installer "SimRel 2018‑09" from ibm cloud is reported as virus infected
Bug 509799 - Symantec reports a Trojan SONAR.AM.C!g24 in eclipse
Bug 485899 - upgrading eclipse causes anti-virus to alert

Rolf

Op 6/17/2019 om 8:35 PM schreef Tim Webb:
Unfortunately a no-go.  Gave it a try and despite taking 1.5 minutes to run the command line, it still took the full first scan after running the exe that had already been scanned.

It seems we'd need some guidance from Microsoft in how to get some/all of Eclipse whitelisted in their Security Intelligence.  Perhaps at least major releases can have their Jars registered...  

C:\Users\tim>"%programfiles%\Windows Defender\mpcmdrun" -AddDynamicSignature ...
You need administrator privilege to execute this command.

Perhaps there is a way we can register the signature and have the Eclipse Installer ask the user for permissions to invoke registering the Eclipse Signature as an approved certificate?

Tim

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:26 AM Michael Keppler <Michael.Keppler@xxxxxx> wrote:
Can you make one of the affected persons try running this before they
start eclipse?

"%programfiles%\Windows Defender\mpcmdrun" -scan -file
"full_path_to_eclipse_installation"

If that helps, we could potentially add this to the installer (but not
the ZIPs, of course), in the hope Defender afterwards remembers it
already scanned the installation. However, I have no experience with the
above, I just googled around for cmd line interaction with defender.
There are also more options (like different scan types), not sure if
that makes an additional difference.


Another potential issue to check: Windows marks downloaded files
automatically as "unsafe". See
https://www.howtogeek.com/70012/what-causes-the-file-downloaded-from-the-internet-warning-and-how-can-i-easily-remove-it/
for an instruction of how to remove that marker from many files. I'm not
sure if this really has any relation with Windows defender scans, I
think it only triggers the "Do you really want to..." popup.


That all being said, at our company we have given up to find something
better than filters as workaround. With TrendMicro Antivirus on access
scanning being active, every git operation inside eclipse is about 10
times slower than with eclipse filtered from the scan.

Ciao, Michael


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Cheers,
Tim
                                                  

Timothy R. Webb
Vice President, Operations
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