Eclipse Working Groups which are for specification activities (like the OSGi WG, Jakarta EE WG, MIcroProfile WG), manage specification projects. These projects produce specifications under the Eclipse Foundation Specification Process. Jakarta EE WG has multiple such specification projects. OSGi WG has only one: the OSGi Specification Project. These are the projects which are in the scope of the working group. I think the term "scope" is under defined in these working group charters and leads to confusion.
To be a committer members of one of these working groups, one must be a committer on one of the specification projects of the working group (in the scope of the working group).
So to be a committer member of the Jakarta EE WG, you must first be a committer on one of the Jakarta EE specification projects. Being a committer on an Eclipse project (that is not a Jakarta EE specification project) which implements or uses a Jakarta EE specification is not sufficient. That is, one must be a committer on a specification project which has a stake in the making of the specifications rather than just the implementing or using of the specifications. The OSGi WG and the MicroProfile WG are the same in this respect. To become a committer member of the OSGi WG, one must first become a committer on the OSGi Specification Project.
If you think that a committer on any Eclipse project should be able to be a committer member of any Eclipse Working Group, then that is a larger issue to take up with the Eclipse Foundation.
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [osgi-wg] OSGI Working Group Committer Representative Election - Nomination Period Extended
Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 02:53
In addendum to Scott:
I find it rather confusing what a 'Committer member' actually is, the
text says that:
> Committer Members are individuals who [...] are able to contribute and
> commit materials to the Eclipse Foundation projects included in the
> scope of this working group.
e.g. I'm a committer of tycho, tycho is for building OSGi Stuff and
using OSGi technologies internally so is Tycho a project included in the
scope of this working group?
Another example is I sometime contribute patches to Equinox (is Equinox
a project included in the scope of this working group?) but I'm not a
committer but as these changes are merged I obviously 'are able to
contribute and commit materials' ...
To summarize and as I have previously state, I'm really willing to
contribute and participate in OSGi WG and technology but all this
bureaucracy, terms and membership definitions really holding me back to
start contributions...
Am 09.06.21 um 23:19 schrieb Scott Lewis:
> Perhaps the restrictions should be loosened so that committers from
> other than the spec project...e.g. EF committers/projects that implement
> these specs...be allowed to provide committer representation?
>
> Scott
>
> On 6/9/2021 1:39 PM, Sharon Corbett wrote:
>>
>> All:The nomination extension has now ended and at this time both seats
>> remain unfilled.
>>
>>
>> Should any OSGi Specification Project Committer member be interested
>> in either seat, please do connect.
>>
>>
>> This is a great opportunity to provide committer level representation
>> to the governing bodies of the working group!For more information on
>> the associated powers and duties of these committees, please refer to
>> the Charter <https://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups/osgi-charter.php>.
>>
>>
>> Regards,Sharon
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 4:44 PM Sharon Corbett
>> <sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> All;
>>
>> The Steering and Specification Committees of the OSGi Working
>> Group each have one seat available for Committer members.
>>
>> While the nomination period ended on May 24, 2021, we would like
>> to extend the nomination period to *June 4, 2021*.
>>
>> All members are encouraged to consider nominating and self
>> nominations are more than welcome.
>>
>> *Please note only committer members
>> <https://www.eclipse.org/membership/#tab-levels>of the OSGi
>> Specification project
>> <https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.osgi>are
>> eligible for nomination as that is the project within scope of the
>> OSGi Working Group*.
>>
>> If you are unsure if you are a committer member, please feel free
>> to reach out to me personally for clarification.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Sharon
>>
>>
>>
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