| Re: [osgi-wg] OSGI Working Group Committer Representative Election - Nomination Period Extended |
<usual explanation of rules/membership/participation/etc deleted>
If you think that a committer on any Eclipse project should be able to be a committer member of any Eclipse Working Group, then that is a larger issue to take up with the Eclipse Foundation.
I'm not suggesting that a committer on any Eclipse project should
be able to be a committer member of any Eclipse Working Group.
That's an overstatement/false equivalence.
What I am suggesting is that the restriction that working group
committer membership requires committers from a single associated
project is too restrictive. In this case (OSGi) it restricts
committer members down to about 5 people on the spec project...and
none of those five are apparently able/want to participate.
And it excludes committers like myself and Jurgen, who are intimately involved with (in my case) implementing these specs, and so although (in my case again) I can't reasonably provide participation on the spec project, I am a stakeholder wrt decisions taken on by the working group, and have relevant technical background and willingness to participate.
Result: The restriction that working group members (especially
committers I would say) be from a single spec project is too
restrictive. Obviously OSGi has a large and mature ecosystem
related to the spec (spec authors, implementers, consumers,
etc)...all of which have an interest in being aware of and
possibly participating in working group activities. I'm aware
of the rules as defined by bylaws and/or convention. I think they
are clearly too restrictive...in this case at least (0 project
members willing to be on the working group). I doubt I'm alone in
this.
Scott
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [osgi-wg] OSGI Working Group Committer Representative Election - Nomination Period Extended
Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 02:53
In addendum to Scott:
I find it rather confusing what a 'Committer member' actually is, the
text says that:
> Committer Members are individuals who [...] are able to contribute and
> commit materials to the Eclipse Foundation projects included in the
> scope of this working group.
e.g. I'm a committer of tycho, tycho is for building OSGi Stuff and
using OSGi technologies internally so is Tycho a project included in the
scope of this working group?
Another example is I sometime contribute patches to Equinox (is Equinox
a project included in the scope of this working group?) but I'm not a
committer but as these changes are merged I obviously 'are able to
contribute and commit materials' ...
To summarize and as I have previously state, I'm really willing to
contribute and participate in OSGi WG and technology but all this
bureaucracy, terms and membership definitions really holding me back to
start contributions...
Am 09.06.21 um 23:19 schrieb Scott Lewis:
> Perhaps the restrictions should be loosened so that committers from
> other than the spec project...e.g. EF committers/projects that implement
> these specs...be allowed to provide committer representation?
>
> Scott
>
> On 6/9/2021 1:39 PM, Sharon Corbett wrote:
>>
>> All:The nomination extension has now ended and at this time both seats
>> remain unfilled.
>>
>>
>> Should any OSGi Specification Project Committer member be interested
>> in either seat, please do connect.
>>
>>
>> This is a great opportunity to provide committer level representation
>> to the governing bodies of the working group!For more information on
>> the associated powers and duties of these committees, please refer to
>> the Charter <https://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups/osgi-charter.php>.
>>
>>
>> Regards,Sharon
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 4:44 PM Sharon Corbett
>> <sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> All;
>>
>> The Steering and Specification Committees of the OSGi Working
>> Group each have one seat available for Committer members.
>>
>> While the nomination period ended on May 24, 2021, we would like
>> to extend the nomination period to *June 4, 2021*.
>>
>> All members are encouraged to consider nominating and self
>> nominations are more than welcome.
>>
>> *Please note only committer members
>> <https://www.eclipse.org/membership/#tab-levels>of the OSGi
>> Specification project
>> <https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.osgi>are
>> eligible for nomination as that is the project within scope of the
>> OSGi Working Group*.
>>
>> If you are unsure if you are a committer member, please feel free
>> to reach out to me personally for clarification.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Sharon
>>
>>
>>
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