Team,
As lead of the MDT project, of which OCL is a
component,
I would like to stress Rich’s point that this is not a “land grab”. As
far as I
understand things, if we’re not going to hold a Termination Review,
it’s up to
the PMC (and me as this component’s representative to the PMC) to
appoint a new
set of committers. This set must be based on the principles of the
Eclipse
Development Process (e.g. history of contributions), and the new team
must agree
with the current scope of the OCL component. Should we wish to deviate
from
either of these, I would suggest a Termination Review as a more
appropriate
course of action.
BTW, we will be discussing this at today’s
Modeling PMC
meeting, details of which can be found at http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_PMC_Meeting,_2009-03-17.
Cheers,
Kenn
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Yes, of
course. This underscores my
point of assigning new committers based on contribution; after all,
it’s not a
land grab ;)
With that, I’d be interested to know the level of effort each expects
they will
be able to apply toward maintaining the component. I think we all
agree
Christian has set a pretty high bar on what’s expected.
Thanks,
Rich
On 3/17/09 9:04 AM, "Adolfo Sánchez-Barbudo Herrera" <adolfosbh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Rich,
I think you could have a quick idea if you have a look to the IP Log
for the
MDT project:
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=modeling.mdt
Cheers,
Adolfo.
Richard Gronback escribió:
I suggest that each proposed committer present a list of contributions
they
have made to MDT OCL, in order for each to be evaluated on the
meritocratic
basis upon which Eclipse projects operate.
Thanks,
Rich
On 3/16/09 11:04 AM, "Freddy Allilaire" <freddy.allilaire@xxxxxxx> <mailto:freddy.allilaire@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Ed,
Here is the proposed set of committers for MDT/OCL subproject
lead : Freddy Allilaire
committers :
Anthony Hunter
Bernd Kolb
another SAP guy ;-)
Laurent Goubet
Bernd : we'll soon need the "SAP guy" name ;-)
Regards,
Freddy
Ed Merks a écrit :
Guys,
I've asked the EMO about how to handle this and they are fine if we
simply identify for each component a new set of committers. So I'll
expect to see a proposed set of committers, including a lead, for each
component *by the end of next week*, and then I'll go forward with
that list.
Cheers,
Ed
Anthony Hunter wrote:
So Christian, are you willing to baby sit the components on your own
time until a termination review?
Or would you rather vote in a some committers on each of these
components to take over next week, with the provision that things
could change based on the to be scheduled termination review?
Cheers...
Anthony
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input. That has been my understanding, too.
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Hi, Kenn,
Thanks for your prompt input. That has been my understanding, too.
Perhaps the name of this review mechanism is problematic: it should
be called the
"Please-help-Eclipse-to-decide-what-to-do-with-this-project Review."
:-)
I shall work up some slides, then, for termination reviews of these
components and send them out for feed-back before asking the EMO to
schedule the reviews. These slides will make it clear that there is,
in my opinion, sufficient interest to re-boot these components with
new committers under new leadership and that this should be the
recommended course of action. As I understand it, the interested
parties will have an opportunity to collaborate on the new road-map,
committer team, and leadership for these components.
Thanks!
Christian
On 12-Mar-09, at 8:50 AM, Kenn Hussey wrote:
Christian,
The
process for ³vaulting of individuals into committer
positions²
IS the Termination Review, AFAIK. To be clear,
a
Termination Review does not automatically mean the
project/component
will be terminated/archived; it gives
the
community the chance to step up and potentially do a
reboot.
I don¹t think we can/should replace all of the
committers
(only one in this case) with new ones via the
usual
voting process unless we can justify the new
committers
based on meritocracyŠ
Cheers,
*Kenn
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Hi,
Thanks
to Anthony, Cédric, and Bernd for expressing
willingness
to commit to the continued vitality of these
components!
It's great to see such support.
Just to
be clear, again: as I understand it, Termination
Review
is the only process by which a project's committer
team
might be changed /en masse/ on events such as this,
and the
preferred outcome for all stakeholders is always
that
the project continue under new leadership with a new
committer
team.
If
there is another mechanism available, or if the
Modeling
PMC can direct a transition, please let me know!
I
prefer a smooth transition of these components into
willing
and capable hands. For example, if the PMC can
approve
the vaulting of individuals into committer
positions
that they would not, under normal
circumstances,
yet have earned, then that works for me.
Kenn?
Ed? What is your recommendation as PMC reps for the
projects
involved?
Thanks,
Christian
On
11-Mar-09, at 5:30 PM, Christian W. Damus wrote:
Hello,
my PMC,
As most
of you already know, I have been unemployed for
some
time now. That interval is now coming to an end, to
my
great relief.
However,
in my new employment, the job description does
not
include time to spend on development of the Eclipse
Modeling
components on which I am currently a committer.
Nor
would I expect it to, as the work is quite removed
from
the MDD sphere.
I would
not be able to contribute as a committer on these
components
to the standard expected of the Eclipse
community,
and certainly not my own standard, on my own
personal
time. Therefore, I shall need to relinquish my
committer
rights on the MDT OCL component and the EMF
Query,
Transaction, and Validation components as of next
week.
The problem
is, of course, that I am the only committer
on
these components. As I understand the Eclipse process,
a
Project that finds itself without any committers
proceeds
to Termination Review in the hope that the
project
can be re-staffed. Is the same true of
Components?
Can we assume that the rules of the new
process
(in which these components that are still
Components
would be Projects) should apply?
Please
advise.
Thanks,
Christian
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