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Re: [microprofile-wg] Proposal: Adjusting 2022 Budget
  • From: "Steve Millidge (Payara)" <steve.millidge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Thread-topic: [microprofile-wg] Proposal: Adjusting 2022 Budget

I don’t have a problem in principle with reducing fees. Just a point to note smaller fee payers are getting a 20% reduction or zero reduction whereas larger organisations are getting 60% reductions. Shouldn’t the reduction be consistent across the board. If you want an approx 50% reduction just cut all fees by 50%?




From: microprofile-wg <microprofile-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Summers Pittman
Sent: 02 November 2021 17:50
To: Microprofile WG discussions <microprofile-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [microprofile-wg] Proposal: Adjusting 2022 Budget




On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 4:36 PM David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



I'd like to propose we consider reducing the overall MicroProfile budget to something around 50k/year.  Here is a fee structure that could get us there with current membership.


Corporate Revenue

Fees 2021

Fees 2022

Annual Corporate Revenues greater than $1 billion



Annual Corporate Revenues greater than $100 million but less than or equal to $1 billion



Annual Corporate Revenues greater than $10 million but less than or equal to $100 million



Annual Corporate Revenues less than or equal to $10 million



Annual Corporate Revenues less than $1 million and < 10 employees



Total budget with all current members





There are a handful of motivations:


 - We've operated successfully for 5 years without budget

 - We have a 36k surplus we don't know what to do with and 2 months to spend it

 - The budget is a continuous source of conflict.  I sense we'd be overall happier with a more traditional open source "what we need is contributed" style

 - $110k of our 2021 came from Jakarta EE, which is looking at a $250k reduction in 2022 budget; $360k if $110k is again shifted away towards MicroProfile

 - We'll unlikely need or use an 80k to 90k surplus in 2022, this could go to Jakarta EE instead

 - Even at a reduced budget of 56k for MicroProfile 2022 there'll still be $30k available after G&A and Ops costs

 - Any needs above and beyond can be donated or contributed as-needed as has been the case over the last 5 years


We have our own reasons for there to be a lower budget; we don't use what we have and it generates conflict.  Given that and the reduced budget for Jakarta EE, there is an opportunity for a win-win if we get this done quickly while Jakarta EE budget discussions are still open.




+1 and well said.



If people like this, we'd likely need to get this voted in the next two weeks.



David Blevins


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