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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Jakarta 10.1?
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    On 10/6/22 11:38 AM, arjan tijms wrote:
    
    
      
      Hi,
        
        
        In a similar vein to how we did Jakarta 9.1, what about
          doing a Jakarta 10.1 that only focuses on the security manager
          removal and JDK 17?
        
        
        Jakarta 10.1 would then make sure that all TCKs are updated
          to not use the security manager in any way, and subsequently
          only JDK 17 is tested. Implementations certifying for Jakarta
          10.1 are therefore guaranteed to run without a security
          manager and are also guaranteed to run at least on JDK 17.
       
    
    During the EE 9.1 development, David reminded me that TCK tests
      need to work on both eager/lazy class loading JVMs.  In order to
      pass on eager class loading JVMs, classes that reference the
      Security Manager classes cannot be loaded or they will get a class
      not found exception (CNFE).  
    
    I think we need to concentrate our effort on EE 11, otherwise we
      won't complete the release in a timely manner.  Also due to the
      eager class loading JVMs which we would want to support I think,
      the security manager needs to to be removed from the SPEC APIs
      also (to avoid CNFE failures), which requires a major EE release I
      think.
    
    
    
    
      
        
        
        The work for Jakarta EE 11, which mainly takes place in the
          component specification projects, can largely or even entirely
          continue in parallel.
       
    
    My preference is to start on EE 11 now and not delay starting the
      work which includes a lot of TCK changes that need to happen
      before we start any SPEC Ballots (we might be able to do some
      parallel effort but once ballots start, TCKs that are used must be
      completed).
    
    
    
      
    
    Thanks for starting this thread to discuss now!  A lot of good
      feedback!
    
    Scott
    
    
      
        
        
        Kind regards,
        Arjan Tijms
       
      
      
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