| Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] : Re: Pushing RCx or Mx to maven central |
If the purpose of the Release Candidate or Milestone driver is to enable the certification of a compatible implementation of the spec so that you can release your spec, then the Release Candidate or Milestone driver really needs to be available from a permanent location like maven, not a temporary staging repo. It isn't acceptable to be telling potential compatible implementations to produce alpha or beta releases of their own product based upon an artifact from a temporary staging location that will disappear. Given that we are asking these products to provide compatible implementations of our specification for our own benefit (verifying that our specs are ready for final release), we owe it to them to provide Release Candidate or Milestone artifacts that are product-ready and product-worthy to be picked up and consumed by their users. This includes the artifacts remaining available and not going away.
From: "Tibor Digana" <tibordigana@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "jakartaee-platform developer discussions" <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 01/13/2022 06:02 AM
Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [External] : Re: Pushing RCx or Mx to maven central
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The main purpose of Nexus Staging Repo is internal within the Jakarta organization and it is mainly testing purposes in the Q/A team, and so the staging repo is temporal and has only a time limited life cycle. If we make a decision regarding ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
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The main purpose of Nexus Staging Repo is internal within the Jakarta organization and it is mainly testing purposes in the Q/A team, and so the staging repo is temporal and has only a time limited life cycle.
If we make a decision regarding the staging repos, we would have problems with the arguments that these repos have been deleted at some time.
Additionally, the names of staging repos are not general per Spec. They are not named like "BVAL". Their name has a postfix number been automatically generated by the staging server, e.g. BVAL-236289, BVAL-04832662 etc, and the list of staging repos in the server would be large and totally messy for the customer in order to understand which one should be picked up and which one is related to Git commit or Jira ticket.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 12:31 PM Lukas Jungmann <lukas.jungmann@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:On 1/13/22 12:06 PM, Emily Jiang via jakartaee-platform-dev wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> Can you explain why you think the artifacts should not be pushed to
> maven central? One of the reasons for pushing the artifacts to maven
> central is to make it easier for others to access the artifacts and then
> provide feedback. If all of the artifacts are in staging, only the
> projects under EE4J can access them freely, which creates a barrier for
> other projects to obtain these artifacts.
Some of these RC/M spec project builds may depend on final builds of
other spec projects. Final build of the spec project cannot be published
to maven central (or basically anywhere from where it cannot be
immediately deleted should the request for it come) with out prior
approvals from EF (release review process) and spec committee (ballot).
What is the point of pushing knwown-to-be broken for some undefined
period of time broken RC/M builds to maven central?
Should anyone have a need to use artifacts from the staging repo in his
project, adding the staging repo to his pom is relatively easy to find
and simple thing to do.
thanks,
--lukas
>
> Thanks
> Emily
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:12 AM Mark Thomas <markt@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:markt@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> For Servlet, Pages, EL, WebSocket: No.
>
> Implementations should use the staging repository if they want
> access to
> non-final release artifacts.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 12/01/2022 23:12, Emily Jiang via jakartaee-platform-dev wrote:
> > At the moment, some specs push RCx or Mx to maven central, which is
> > great so that implementations can easily pick them up and provide
> > feedback if anything is not working. However, not all specs
> follow this
> > approach. Can we get the following specs to push their latest Mx
> or RCx
> > to maven central so that implementations can easily consume them?
> Open
> > Liberty would like to consume the artifacts as soon as possible
> so that
> > we can provide timely feedback if we find any issues.
> >
> > * authentication 3.0
> > * authorization 2.1
> > * concurrency 3.0
> > * connectors 2.1
> > * _expression_ language 5.0
> > * faces 4.0
> > * jsonp 2.1
> > * jsonb 3.0
> > * jstl 3.0
> > * messaging 3.1
> > * pages 3.1
> > * persistence 3.1
> > * restfulWS 3.1
> > * security 3.0
> > * servlet 6.0
> > * websocket 2.1
> >
> >
> > Your help is greatly appreciated!
> > --
> > Thanks
> > Emily
> >
> >
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