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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Oracle's position on Jakarta EE 9

Kevin Sutter wrote on 10/1/19 1:15 PM:
Excellent strawman, Bill.  Thanks!

What about Entity Beans?  You mention "client view", but did you also mean to include Entity BMP and CMP Beans?  I'd vote +1 for that pruning as well.
I agree, that should probably be on the list.

I noticed that you didn't include Jakarta Management in the Pruning list.  The other Stable APIs were included to be pruned (Registries, RPC, and Deployment).  Did you just just forget Management, or is there a reason why you wouldn't include that in your list to be pruned?
At the moment it isn't marked "proposed optional".  We had hoped to update it rather than prune it, but if there's no longer any interest in it we could consider pruning it as well.  We need to decide what the pruning process is for Jakarta EE.

Any justification on which Java SE 8 APIs should be moved to Jakarta EE 9 and which ones shouldn't?  Or, was it just gut reaction to usage scenarios?
Mostly the latter.  CORBA and SOAP usage is dropping significantly, but XML is still widely used.  Mail needs Activation, which is why it's still there.

Agree with postponing the MicroProfile decision until after Jakarta EE 9.

The TCK work could be initiated and completed at any time, right?  Does it have to line up with Jakarta EE releases?
It just has to not disrupt Jakarta EE releases.  If the work to restructure the TCKs can be done on a branch and kept in sync with the work to update the TCKs for Jakarta EE 9, that would be fine, but that's even more work.

Other than that, I think this is a great start!

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From:        Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:        jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        10/01/2019 11:33 AM
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] [jakartaee-platform-dev] Oracle's position on Jakarta EE 9
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See attached for Oracle's proposal for Jakarta EE 9.  We look forward to
continuing this discussion.
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