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I can speak for the Foundation :)
First off, Kevin is correct in saying
that as a non-profit we have no motivation to hold onto the
namespace if we fail as an organization.
Here is what our Bylaws
say we're to do if the Eclipse Foundation were to cease to be.
Section 6.21 Distribution of
Assets Upon Dissolution. Upon a dissolution of the
Eclipse Foundation, and after all of the known debts
and liabilities of the Eclipse Foundation have been paid
or adequately provided for, any remaining net assets of
the Eclipse Foundation shall be distributed by the Board to
one or more organizations selected by the Board which will help
to further the purposes of the Eclipse Foundation as set forth
in Section 1.1.
In other words, in the unlikely event
that the Eclipse Foundation expires before the jakarta namespace,
we would turn it over to another non-profit to continue the
mission.
I honestly feel that the jakarta
namespace will be as safe as anything out there.
On 2019-05-31 11:39 a.m., Kevin Sutter
wrote:
Marko,
The Eclipse
Foundation
owns the Jakarta trademark. If Jakarta would ever become
irrelevant
to Eclipse(heaven forbid), then I would assume they would be
willing to
give it up -- just like the Apache Foundation gave the Jakarta
rights to
the Eclipse Foundation since it was no longer used by Apache.
Granted,
nobody can predict the future. But, the Eclipse Foundation is
not
a commercial entity like Oracle. There would be no reason for
the
Foundation to hold "Jakarta" hostage if it was no longer
managing,
promoting, and developing Jakarta EE.
(I am not
speaking
on behalf of the Foundation. I'm just expressing my views after
working
for many years with the Foundation and associated Eclipse
Projects.)
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Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
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From:
Marko
Bekhta <marko.prykladna@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
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Date:
05/31/2019
10:26 AM
Subject:
[EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Transitioning Jakarta EE to the
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HI all,
I was trying to catch up on this
package
transitioning topic. And there's a question that was bugging me
more and
more, deeper I was into the thread.
We are trying to decide which
approach
to use to migrate the javax packages. But is there any guarantee
that,
let's say in N years, we won't be in exactly the same situation,
migrating
from jakarta to some other package?
I'm not great when it comes to
legal/licensing
questions, but I think it would be great, if possible, to
somehow ensure
that jakarta package stays open no matter what. This would make
the platform
more attractive and safer to use. If that's already in place
somewhere
I would be thankful if someone can point me in the right
direction.
Have a nice day,
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