Re: [jakarta.ee-spec] [jakarta.ee-steering] Verifying that there is a ze

[Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Perhaps there's confusion over being a Committer on a spec project vs. being on the Spec Committee itself?

Scott Stark wrote on 12/9/19 12:49 PM:

The working group fee structure does allow for companies under $1M in revenue and 10 employees to join the working group as Participant Members for $0, so that would be one way. I just want to verify that a large company can choose to sponsor developers that can contribute to spec projects.

On Dec 9, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I can't speak for the EF, but there better be a zero cost option for Committers.  How else would Markus be participating?  And, Mark Struberg?  Those are two key committers that are independent and not paying anything.  I'm sure there are others.  I thought that was one of our key goals was to provide zero-cost participation.  Working Group members will have to pay something, but not regular committers.  I sure hope my recollection is right on this...

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From:        Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx>
To:        Jakarta EE Steering Committee <jakarta.ee-steering@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Jakarta specification disccusions <jakarta.ee-spec@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        12/09/2019 14:13
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] [jakarta.ee-spec] Verifying that there is a zero cost way for committers to participate in specification projects
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While looking into what resources are available to contribute to the JAXB and JAX-WS specs in terms of updates, two of the main contributors to Apache CXF have indicated that they cannot work on these specification projects because their company(~200M in revenue) is unwilling to pay the $20k fee required by the current participation agreement:
https://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups/wpga/jakarta_ee_working_group_participation_agreement.pdf

When I went through the various levels of membership, it seems like they could come in as committer members at both the Eclipse Foundation and Jakarta EE Working Group levels and have a zero dollar cost to participate in these specifications. Am I correct in that reading of these various documents defining the requirements for a Specification Project member?

https://www.eclipse.org/projects/efsp/#efsp-projects
https://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups/jakarta_ee_charter.php
https://www.eclipse.org/org/workinggroups/wpga/jakarta_ee_working_group_participation_agreement.pdf
https://www.eclipse.org/membership/become_a_member/membershipTypes.php#committer

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