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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [jakartaee-ambassadors] Re: Jakarta EE 10 Deck
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    Thanks for the review. I'll make the updates ASAP.
    
    On 6/9/22 2:08 PM, Nathan Rauh wrote:
    
    
      
      
      
      
        Reza,
         
        CDI Context Propagation (slide 10) did not
          make EE 10 and should be switched to an EE 11 goal (slide
          25).  In place of it on slide 10, you could list Context
          Propagation for third-party context providers.
         
         
        
        
          Thanks for
              checking/confirming. Repeating from my earlier email: "I
              plan to explain the color coding on slide 8 when I get a
              chance via speaker notes. The intent of this slide is to
              map the contents of the Ambassadors' Jakarta EE 10
              contributor
              
         
        
        
          
            
              
                
                  
                    
                      
                        
                          
                            
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        Thanks for checking/confirming. Repeating from my earlier
          email:
        "I plan to explain the color coding on slide 8 when I get a
          chance via speaker notes. The intent of this slide is to map
          the contents of the Ambassadors' Jakarta EE 10 contributor
          guide (https://jakartaee-ambassadors.io/guide-to-contributing-to-jakarta-ee-10/)
          to what actually made it into Jakarta EE 10 and what seems
          committed although it did not make it. You could think of it
          as a score card of sorts.
          
          The items in dark green are the things that made it into
          Jakarta EE 10. The items in light green are the things that
          looks like they are going to happen but just did not make it
          into Jakarta EE 10. The items in black are important gaps that
          really have not been addressed yet to my knowledge. I
          considered putting these items in light red, but I think
          readability really suffers if I did that. I tried different
          color schemes but I think this is the best I could figure
          without complicating the slide any more with animations, etc."
        Good point on some of the CDI deprecation. Let me see how I
          can add them.
        
          On 6/9/22 12:11 PM, arjan tijms wrote:
         
        
          
            Hi, 
            
            
            
            
              @Lock and @MaxConcurrency didn't make
                it in. @RolesAllowed and @RunAs again fell off the wagon
                as well. JWT alignment (quite unfortunately really)
                wasn't done either.
             
            
            
              Deprecation/removal could add
                deprecated CDI methods.
             
            
            
              Maybe it wasn't updated? As the other
                slides talking about security and concurrency indeed
                don't discuss these. Or is slide 8 just about what was
                intended to be done?
             
            
            
            
            
            
           
           
          
            
            
              
                Hi, 
                
                
                  I liked the following resources
                    for some overview:
                 
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
                
               
               
              
                
                
                  
                    
                     
                    
                      
                      
                        
                          With all respect, I think it's important to
                            look at this from the standpoint of someone
                            that doesn't have a lot of time to be
                            abreast of all specification development. So
                            far, the only way to understand what changed
                            is essentially to navigate each
                            specification document and see if the exact
                            delta is well-documented somehow. Sometimes
                            it is and sometimes it is not (I would
                            assess the quality of this information
                            currently at something like 50%). If you
                            like I can go over it again and list the
                            specific rough spots that are very hard to
                            track down.
                         
                      
                      
                        Right, documentation is
                          always the hardest part of an open-source
                          project. The Jakarta EE Specification
                          Committee defines the documentation structure,
                          but it is entirely up to each one of the
                          individual open-source specification projects
                          to provide the actual text. There is no
                          central entity providing this service. 
                       
                      
                        Documentation is probably
                          one of the most appreciated contributions that
                          can be made to an open-source project. The
                          more help, the better documentation.
                       
                      
                      
                      
                      
                        
                          In the meanwhile, if folks could do an old
                            fashioned review, I would really appreciate
                            it. I do need to deliver this talk as soon
                            as a few weeks from now.
                          
                            On 6/9/2022 6:27 AM,
                              Ivar Grimstad wrote:
                           
                          
                            
                              
                                Hi Reza, 
                                
                                
                                  Thanks for
                                    setting this up! 
                                 
                                
                                  As I promised, I
                                    will send you the rest of my slides
                                    when they have been updated
                                    so you can add them to the ones you
                                    got previously.
                                 
                                
                                
                                  You say it is
                                    hard to find the information, which
                                    makes me curious. What is missing on
                                    the specification pages [1]? 
                                 
                                
                                  The goal is that
                                    these pages should be a one-stop
                                    place to find all information about
                                    the various specification releases.
                                 
                                
                                
                                  Note that the
                                    Specification Committee is currently
                                    going over each specification to add
                                    a "Short Summary" section modeled
                                    after this template [2].
                                 
                                
                                  This work is not
                                    complete yet, so bear with us a
                                    little until we get it done. An
                                    example of what it may look like is
                                    Jakarta Connectors 2.1 [3].
                                 
                                
                                
                                  Each
                                    specification document contains a
                                    "What's new" section and a
                                    changelog, and we don't want to
                                    duplicate too much of this
                                    information on the summary page. 
                                 
                                
                                  Just the key
                                    features of the release.
                                 
                                
                                
                                
                                
                                
                                
                                
                                
                               
                               
                              
                                
                                
                                  Hi folks,
                                    
                                    I am beginning to put together my
                                    Jakarta EE 10 deck: 
                                    https://1drv.ms/p/s!AlSoTwbDM7bzgeYG6M4aS_Mi2Pbemg?e=uc6ccj.
                                    I have to 
                                    be honest that this was very tough
                                    as accurate and complete information
                                    
                                    on Jakarta EE 10 has been very
                                    difficult to come by at the moment.
                                    
                                    Can I kindly ask for a review? At
                                    this point, 100% accuracy and 
                                    completeness is probably not
                                    possible but I would like to avoid
                                    obvious 
                                    mistakes.
                                    
                                    Once I have delivered the talk a few
                                    times, I will add a heavy amount of
                                    
                                    speaker notes, record the talk and
                                    make it possible for any Ambassador
                                    
                                    to deliver the talk themselves.
                                    
                                    Thanks in advance for your help.
                                    
                                    Reza Rahman
                                    Jakarta EE Ambassador, Author,
                                    Blogger, Speaker
                                    
                                    Please note views expressed here are
                                    my own as an individual community 
                                    member and do not reflect the views
                                    of my employer.
                                    
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