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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [jakartaee-ambassadors] Re: Jakarta EE 10 Deck

Thanks for the review. I'll make the updates ASAP.

On 6/9/22 2:08 PM, Nathan Rauh wrote:

Reza,

 

CDI Context Propagation (slide 10) did not make EE 10 and should be switched to an EE 11 goal (slide 25).  In place of it on slide 10, you could list Context Propagation for third-party context providers.

 

 

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Thanks for checking/confirming. Repeating from my earlier email: "I plan to explain the color coding on slide 8 when I get a chance via speaker notes. The intent of this slide is to map the contents of the Ambassadors' Jakarta EE 10 contributor

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Thanks for checking/confirming. Repeating from my earlier email:

"I plan to explain the color coding on slide 8 when I get a chance via speaker notes. The intent of this slide is to map the contents of the Ambassadors' Jakarta EE 10 contributor guide (https://jakartaee-ambassadors.io/guide-to-contributing-to-jakarta-ee-10/) to what actually made it into Jakarta EE 10 and what seems committed although it did not make it. You could think of it as a score card of sorts.

The items in dark green are the things that made it into Jakarta EE 10. The items in light green are the things that looks like they are going to happen but just did not make it into Jakarta EE 10. The items in black are important gaps that really have not been addressed yet to my knowledge. I considered putting these items in light red, but I think readability really suffers if I did that. I tried different color schemes but I think this is the best I could figure without complicating the slide any more with animations, etc."

Good point on some of the CDI deprecation. Let me see how I can add them.

On 6/9/22 12:11 PM, arjan tijms wrote:

Hi,

 

On Slide 8

 

@Lock and @MaxConcurrency didn't make it in. @RolesAllowed and @RunAs again fell off the wagon as well. JWT alignment (quite unfortunately really) wasn't done either.

 

Deprecation/removal could add deprecated CDI methods.

 

Maybe it wasn't updated? As the other slides talking about security and concurrency indeed don't discuss these. Or is slide 8 just about what was intended to be done?

 

Kind regards,

Arjan

 

 

 

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 6:04 PM arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

 

I liked the following resources for some overview:

 

 

Kind regards,

Arjan Tijms

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:11 PM Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

 

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 1:49 PM Reza Rahman <reza_rahman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

With all respect, I think it's important to look at this from the standpoint of someone that doesn't have a lot of time to be abreast of all specification development. So far, the only way to understand what changed is essentially to navigate each specification document and see if the exact delta is well-documented somehow. Sometimes it is and sometimes it is not (I would assess the quality of this information currently at something like 50%). If you like I can go over it again and list the specific rough spots that are very hard to track down.

Right, documentation is always the hardest part of an open-source project. The Jakarta EE Specification Committee defines the documentation structure, but it is entirely up to each one of the individual open-source specification projects to provide the actual text. There is no central entity providing this service. 

Documentation is probably one of the most appreciated contributions that can be made to an open-source project. The more help, the better documentation.

 

Ivar

 

In the meanwhile, if folks could do an old fashioned review, I would really appreciate it. I do need to deliver this talk as soon as a few weeks from now.

On 6/9/2022 6:27 AM, Ivar Grimstad wrote:

Hi Reza,

 

Thanks for setting this up! 

As I promised, I will send you the rest of my slides when they have been updated so you can add them to the ones you got previously.

 

You say it is hard to find the information, which makes me curious. What is missing on the specification pages [1]? 

The goal is that these pages should be a one-stop place to find all information about the various specification releases.

 

Note that the Specification Committee is currently going over each specification to add a "Short Summary" section modeled after this template [2].

This work is not complete yet, so bear with us a little until we get it done. An example of what it may look like is Jakarta Connectors 2.1 [3].

 

Each specification document contains a "What's new" section and a changelog, and we don't want to duplicate too much of this information on the summary page. 

Just the key features of the release.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Ivar

 

 

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 5:38 AM Reza Rahman <reza_rahman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi folks,

I am beginning to put together my Jakarta EE 10 deck:
https://1drv.ms/p/s!AlSoTwbDM7bzgeYG6M4aS_Mi2Pbemg?e=uc6ccj. I have to
be honest that this was very tough as accurate and complete information
on Jakarta EE 10 has been very difficult to come by at the moment.

Can I kindly ask for a review? At this point, 100% accuracy and
completeness is probably not possible but I would like to avoid obvious
mistakes.

Once I have delivered the talk a few times, I will add a heavy amount of
speaker notes, record the talk and make it possible for any Ambassador
to deliver the talk themselves.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Reza Rahman
Jakarta EE Ambassador, Author, Blogger, Speaker

Please note views expressed here are my own as an individual community
member and do not reflect the views of my employer.

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