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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Apache TomEE's Jakarta EE 8 Compliance (Re: Component Implementations by Platform)
Not sure, if you're obliged to write it from scratch even where the license (Apache 2.0) would otherwise seem compatible e.g. with JBatch?
Of course it is good to have more than one, thus it could also be good to create more than one compatible implementation of NoSQL instead of convincing the first implementation to change its name (beside a few "unnamed" ones Arjan's list also highlights there is at least "JBatch" with exactly that naming pattern) 

Werner 




On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 10:34 PM David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 1, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Good to hear, you're onto it. Also interesting to learn, if Oracle has plans to certify Weblogic because from that list I believe only TomEE and Weblogic are not yet certified against Jakarta EE 8.

Soteria is also an example for a spec with mainly one implementation until recently, so if more than one exists it is also a good precedent for others like MVC, NoSQL etc.

Agree it's really great to have more than one implementation.  In a handful of other cases like CDI, Bean Validation, JSON-P, JSON-B, Activation, Mail, etc the only other implementation is the one shipped in TomEE, which is good for the industry but does slow us down.

-David

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 6:00 PM David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 1, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Ed Bratt <ed.bratt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

David,

I don't see any challenges in the security-api issue tracker. Could you could point out where the challenges you mentioned below are filed so we can be following up on them.

The challenge procedure is written in each of the respective TCK User Guides. I think it's usually section 2.3, but that might vary. The section title is "Test Appeals Process."

I'll follow up with Jean-Louis.  I had given him the direction that all the challenges first needed to be discussed and agreed by the implementation project before filing.  I had thought we moved on to filing, but looks like not yet.


-David


Thanks,

-- Ed

On 12/1/2020 8:15 AM, David Blevins wrote:
On Dec 1, 2020, at 4:27 AM, Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Arjan/all,

Thanks for the update. 
Wonder, if you as project lead of Jakarta Security could also help David and Tomitribe/Tomee to finally implement the security spec and become Jakarta EE (8) compliant? ;-)

FYI, you changed the topic so I updated the subject :)

That's been implemented in Apache TomEE and we've filed a few challenges.  We're also issuing a blog post tomorrow on how people can help with certification in general.

Definitely help is very welcome.


-David


On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:05 AM arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi David,

I did an update a few months ago, which therefore is a 2020 perspective ;) It's here:


Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms


On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 1:12 AM David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi All,

At one point years ago Arjan did a great blog post on the component implementations used across the various servers.  I thought it would be a really great exercise for us to collect a 2020 perspective.

Could everyone who works on a Jakarta EE Platform or WebProfile implementation please take a few minutes to fill out your tab in this spread sheet?

 - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xiC14jnuGA8FjWtooJEgHxtzSF5OilrdhyTSSH4S154/edit?usp=sharing

If your server doesn't have a tab, just create one by copying one of the existing tabs.  If you have multiple distributions that are each slightly different, feel free to add additional tabs.


-- 
David Blevins

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