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Re: [] Looking for help with recreating editable images


What is the existing format, I thought most images are not available or just in proprietary closed formats like FileMaker?

I see that does more than just UML, so the question is, what types of diagrams are required?
While plain text the for a class diagram shows, that PlantUML has its own somewhat proprietary DSL and isn't compatible with any industry standard, while the diagrams and sources produced by Papyrus are based on standards like UML 2.5, SysML 1.1 & 1.4, fUML 1.2.1, ALF 1.0.1, MARTE 1.1, BPMNProfile 1.0, BMM 1.3, SMM 1.1, PSCS 1.0, PSSM 1.0b, FMI 2.0 and ISO/IEC 42010

Thus it would create less tool or vendor lock-in here, so if we talk about UML diagrams, maybe we should stick to standards here, too?


On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:20 AM Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I can see that viewpoint.  But, on the other hand, I don't want to select a specific format and *require* all existing images to be converted.  And, if it's a super simple change, then maybe a simple picture editor is sufficient for updating a png image.  I don't want to require a certain tool or image format if it's just making busy work for someone.  Now, maybe we could say that *if* you are going to change or modify an image from the png format, then it's strongly suggested that you use svg format and use inkscape as the tool (as an example).

Prove that it works for this exercise and we can take a look.  But, part of this request is to get some real advice from experienced users.  I do not plan to personally try out more and more tools unless someone can demonstrate that it works better than inkscape.  Thanks.

Kevin Sutter
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From:        Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxxxx>
To:        Jakarta EE community discussions <>
Date:        06/17/2020 19:31
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [] Looking for help with recreating        editable images
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I don't know PlantUML but what's wrong with Eclipse Papyrus?


arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx> schrieb am Mi., 17. Juni 2020, 23:52:

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:40 PM Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Edwin,
I don't think we have to decide on a single type of image format or tool to be used across all of the Specifications.  Yes, it's good to have Asciidoc as a base.  But, each component Specification may have different requirements for their images.  Whatever works for each component is fine by me.

Then again, most technical images are not that different in nature, and for most projects I'm involved with the tool wouldn't matter really. So I'd just toss a coin. If we all just toss a coin, we have say 10 different formats for no particular reason ;)

So I think it would be good to recommend a tool/format at least.

Kind regards,


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