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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] [jakartaee-tck-dev] Jakarta community outreach for TCK work
Amelia,

Reply inline:

Where is that document housed? 
Personal Drive.


confirm the document is housed under the Jakarta EE Community Drive
 The document isn't yet on the Community Drive folder. I don't have write access to the folder. 
In the past, Ivar has helped out to create and duplicate files on the Jakarta EE Community Drive folder. 


confirm that it welcomes via "suggestive move" anyone to ADD relevant TCK topics to the doc- recommended collaboration [Name] topic for discussion
Yes, the document has suggestive mode enable.

The topic about how to incorporate non-code community contributions it's now been part of the Marketing Committee agenda. 
We have another related thread from the jakarta.ee-community mailing related with translations for the community JUG folder assest: https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakarta.ee-community/msg02173.html

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Regards
Cesar Hernandez


On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 4:29 PM Amelia Eiras <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Cesar, 

Where is that document housed? 

Can you please circle back the two things below- thanks  :
  1.  confirm the document is housed under the Jakarta EE Community Drive
  2.  confirm that it welcomes via "suggestive move" anyone to ADD relevant TCK topics to the doc- recommended collaboration [Name] topic for discussion
This thread is the most fun as it finally tackles TCK how to.  
To everyone who thus far has participated, you are precious #JakartaDOERS making the next Jakarta Community call that MUCH FUN & Community lead that hopefully inspires many to join. 

With that in mind, I am taking the liberty to add via cc'd the community forum, this thread deals with the agenda for June 10th community call. :) 



On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 3:15 PM Cesar Hernandez <chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
@Tanja,
Scott and I will be happy to allocate a ~15 minutes participation as part of the agenda from the Jakarta EE Community call on June 10th. 
That will give us input to shape a 45 minutes panel for the Jakarta Tech Talk. 

@Scott 
Thank you for joining the panel and also for the set of questions you already provided. 

We are still open and encourage to have more people involved in the panel. 

I created the following document to keep track of the topics, questions, and details to be discussed in the panel:


On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 8:00 AM Tanja Obradovic <tanja.obradovic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Cesar, Scott, All,

this is great! Many thanks for the initiative and all the work!

If you need any help or if you would like to use Jakarta EE Update call on June 10th and dedicate big part of the call to TCK work, and / or  have Jakarta Tech Talk dedicated to the topic much earlier then August we can surly do it! 

Please let me know if you need any help.

Thanks,

Tanja

On 2020-05-26 9:26 a.m., Scott Marlow wrote:

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 2:10 PM Cesar Hernandez <chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As a follow up for this thread.

+1, thanks for organizing!
 

I'm happy to moderate this initiative,  How wants to be part of the panel?

+1, thanks!  
 

The plan can be as simple/agile as:
  •  Agree on a date and time, a set of questions, and have a 30 ~ 45 min call with Q&A about the Jakarta TCK project.

Some previous questions mentioned "how did we get here, what was the evolution, what ideas do they have for the future".   :)

Some additional questions:

*  What is the plan for replacing the Jakarta Platform TCK use of Jakarta Deployment?
**  Could Arquillian be used as a replacement for Jakarta Deployment?
**  How long would it take to replace all RI specific deployment descriptors with Arquillian server connectors replacements?
**  Could this be done incrementally?
**  How much of the code changes could be done by new community members?
**  How would the Arquillian test results be validated as matching 100% of non-Arquillian test results?
**  Should we start before or after Jakarta EE 9 is released?
**  When would the Arquillian support need to be finished (e.g 100% of validation complete, code reviews of too many lines of code completed) by?
***   Do we need scripting/tooling to help reduce the amount of effort to review very large code changes?
****  Perhaps it could help to be able to hide some expected code changes, for example, hide certain changes, like renames of certain words, such that only unexpected changes would be displayed.
*  When will we know the plan for adding new tests for Jakarta 10?

Regards,
Scott

  • The recording can send it to Marketing to be edited and uploaded to the JakartaEE youtube channel [2].
  • In parallel we can write a blog post base on the recorded panel.
Or the panel can be part of the Jakarta Tech Talk session:
  • In terms of date and time, that will depend in the slot availability of the current Jakarta Tech Talks [1]. Which currently shows that August spaces are free.
  • The session is live view crowcast and youtube. Then it's published in Jakarta youtube channel [2]
  • After the session we can write a blog post base on the recorded panel.



On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:12 AM Guillermo González de Agüero <z06.guillermo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


El vie., 24 abr. 2020 13:22, Scott Marlow <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> escribió:


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:37 PM Cesar Hernandez <chernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Team

I was thinking about ways to increase the community's participation in the TCK work for current and upcoming tasks. 

Does provide a video interview or blog post is something you may be interested in scheduled in the near future?

+1, on the video interview idea, I don't want to bring anyone up by name but it would be great to interview some of the people that have been developing the Platform TCK, for many years.  As it would be great to get their perspective on the Platform TCK history (how did we get here, what was the evolution, what ideas do they have for the future).  

That sounds pretty cool and can be very insightful.

One alternative could be to have a recorded (Zoom?) meeting that discusses the Platform TCK history + ideas for future.

The blog idea sounds great also, as it can be quicker/easier to read a blog, than commit to watching a video.

Other thoughts?

Scott
 

If yes, I think can use the muscle Jakarta marketing now that we have awesome blogs, social media distribution and even a dedicated Studio Jakarta EE youtube channel [2]:). I'm happy to help to moderate any of these initiatives but it will require the expertise from at least one more team member. I was reviewing the current GitHub issues [1] and I think there is room for a lot of contributions.

+1 
 
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