Markus,
                Until the rest of the Specifications are
                  contributed to Eclipse (soon, I hear...), why not just
                  update your "front page" (wiki, gh pages, README,
                  whatever) to point at the JCP page for background
                  information?  This could be a temporary stop gap until
                  the Spec source is made available to you.
                  
                Also, Bill's comments (and everybody else
                  on the Spec Committee) on the content of the skeletal
                  specifications was to ensure consistency.  If we
                  provided a common template with common, consistent
                  content (project name, scope statement, copyright,
                  license, etc), then Jakarta EE will look and feel like
                  a finished product.  If we let every component do
                  their own thing, then it would just look like a
                  hodge-podge of information and would not provide the
                  professional view that we have.  You may not agree,
                  and that's fine.  But, we were doing this for a
                  reason.  Thanks.
                  
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                  Kevin Sutter 
                  STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
                  e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx
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                From:        "Markus KARG" <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                To:        "'Jakarta EE community discussions'" <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Date:        09/12/2019 06:20 AM
                Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakarta.ee-community]
                  Jakarta EE 8 Specs in PDF
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              I know that. The question is, how shall
                  the reader of the Jakarte EE 8 spec know?
               
              Von:Bill Shannon [mailto:bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx] 
                    Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. September 2019 23:08
                    An: Jakarta EE community discussions; Markus
                  KARG
                    Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta EE 8
                  Specs in PDF
               
              As Werner said, all the specs are on the
                  JCP web site.  You can find a list of all the specs
                  and links to the JSRs on the Java EE
                    Platform web siteor Oracle's Java
                    EE web site.
              Markus KARG wrote on 9/11/19 11:06 AM:
              Actually it is hard for Jakarte EE 8 spec
                  readers to find the Java EE 8 specs. The reason is
                  that Bill Shannon (IIRC) enforced that existing
                  references form the boilerplate specs to the Java EE
                  specs have to get removed -- so we removed them, at
                  least for JAX-RS. It is rather funny that now you say,
                  people shall read exactly those specs… How shall they
                  locate them?
              -Markus
               
              Von:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Kevin Sutter
                    Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. September 2019 10:59
                    An: Jakarta EE community discussions
                    Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta EE 8
                  Specs in PDF
               
              Arjan is correct.  We have complete
                  Specifications for the Platform, Web Profile, CDI, and
                  Bean Validation.  The rest of the Components have
                  these skeletal specifications and rely on the Javadoc
                  for Jakarta EE 8.  These other Specifications will be
                  filed as they complete their copyright and IP
                  clearances.  We decided it was best to go this route
                  instead of waiting for all of the Component specs to
                  clear.  Appreciate your patience.
                
                  I covered some of these process-related items in my
                  "Jakarta for dummEEs" talk yesterday at the JakartaOne
                  Livestream conference.  Replays are available:
                  https://www.crowdcast.io/e/nztuljys/1
                  
                  ---------------------------------------------------
                  Kevin Sutter 
                  STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
                  e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx    Twitter:  @kwsutter
                  phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
                  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
                  
                  
                
                  From:        arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx>
                  To:        Jakarta EE community discussions <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                  Date:        09/11/2019 09:34 AM
                  Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakarta.ee-community]
                  Jakarta EE 8 Specs in PDF
                  Sent by:        jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
              
                  
              
                  
                  
                  Hi,
                  
                  It's "correct" in the sense that the real spec
                  documents haven't been transferred yet. The current
                  ones that are released (most of them) are just the
                  bare minimum. We call them boilerplate specs.
                  
                  We expect that sometime in the future the existing
                  Java EE spec documents or a subset of those will be
                  transferred.
                  
                  Kind regards,
                  Arjan
                  
                  
                  
                  On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:30 PM Gregor Kovač <kovica@xxxxxxxxx>
                  wrote:
                  Hi!
                  
                  Specs are available at https://jakarta.ee/specifications/
                  "Jakarta EE Platform 8" has 242 pages, but "Jakarta
                  Enterprise Beans 3.2" has only 5 pages. Am I missing
                  something? Looking in a wrong place, ... ?
                  
                  Best regards,
                     Kovi
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