Markus,
              Until the rest of the Specifications are
                contributed to Eclipse (soon, I hear...), why not just
                update your "front page" (wiki, gh pages, README,
                whatever) to point at the JCP page for background
                information?  This could be a temporary stop gap until
                the Spec source is made available to you.
                
              Also, Bill's comments (and everybody else
                on the Spec Committee) on the content of the skeletal
                specifications was to ensure consistency.  If we
                provided a common template with common, consistent
                content (project name, scope statement, copyright,
                license, etc), then Jakarta EE will look and feel like a
                finished product.  If we let every component do their
                own thing, then it would just look like a hodge-podge of
                information and would not provide the professional view
                that we have.  You may not agree, and that's fine.  But,
                we were doing this for a reason.  Thanks.
                
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                Kevin Sutter 
                STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
                e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx
                    Twitter:  @kwsutter
                phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
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              From:        "Markus KARG" <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
              To:        "'Jakarta EE community discussions'" <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
              Date:        09/12/2019 06:20 AM
              Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakarta.ee-community]
                Jakarta EE 8 Specs in PDF
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            I know that. The question is, how shall the
                reader of the Jakarte EE 8 spec know?
             
            Von:Bill Shannon [mailto:bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx] 
                  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. September 2019 23:08
                  An: Jakarta EE community discussions; Markus KARG
                  Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta EE 8
                Specs in PDF
             
            As Werner said, all the specs are on the
                JCP web site.  You can find a list of all the specs and
                links to the JSRs on the Java EE
                  Platform web siteor Oracle's Java
                  EE web site.
            Markus KARG wrote on 9/11/19 11:06 AM:
            Actually it is hard for Jakarte EE 8 spec
                readers to find the Java EE 8 specs. The reason is that
                Bill Shannon (IIRC) enforced that existing references
                form the boilerplate specs to the Java EE specs have to
                get removed -- so we removed them, at least for JAX-RS.
                It is rather funny that now you say, people shall read
                exactly those specs… How shall they locate them?
            -Markus
             
            Von:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Kevin Sutter
                  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. September 2019 10:59
                  An: Jakarta EE community discussions
                  Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta EE 8
                Specs in PDF
             
            Arjan is correct.  We have complete
                Specifications for the Platform, Web Profile, CDI, and
                Bean Validation.  The rest of the Components have these
                skeletal specifications and rely on the Javadoc for
                Jakarta EE 8.  These other Specifications will be filed
                as they complete their copyright and IP clearances.  We
                decided it was best to go this route instead of waiting
                for all of the Component specs to clear.  Appreciate
                your patience.
              
                I covered some of these process-related items in my
                "Jakarta for dummEEs" talk yesterday at the JakartaOne
                Livestream conference.  Replays are available:
                https://www.crowdcast.io/e/nztuljys/1
                
                ---------------------------------------------------
                Kevin Sutter 
                STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
                e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx    Twitter:  @kwsutter
                phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
                LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
                
                
              
                From:        arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx>
                To:        Jakarta EE community discussions <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Date:        09/11/2019 09:34 AM
                  Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re:
                [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta EE 8 Specs in PDF
                  Sent by:        jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
            
                
            
                
                
                Hi,
                
                It's "correct" in the sense that the real spec documents
                haven't been transferred yet. The current ones that are
                released (most of them) are just the bare minimum. We
                call them boilerplate specs.
                
                We expect that sometime in the future the existing Java
                EE spec documents or a subset of those will be
                transferred.
                
                Kind regards,
                Arjan
                
                
                
                On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:30 PM Gregor Kovač <kovica@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                Hi!
                
                Specs are available at https://jakarta.ee/specifications/
                "Jakarta EE Platform 8" has 242 pages, but "Jakarta
                Enterprise Beans 3.2" has only 5 pages. Am I missing
                something? Looking in a wrong place, ... ?
                
                Best regards,
                   Kovi
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