Skip to main content

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] [List Home]
Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta Tech Talks, meetups starting January 2019 with Jakarta EE NoSQL

With currently two different top level projects, PMCs and steering committees, and with overlapping (not just complementing) APIs, we already do have a concurrency situation. So if nobody wants then, the correct solution would be to immediately give up the Microprofile project and migrate all their work into Jakarta. If this is what both steering committees and PMCs want the community to perceive, then the EF should consequently do that ASAP. If not, we should be consequent and strictly have different communication channels, too.

-Markus

 

From: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ivar Grimstad
Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2018 14:24
To: Jakarta EE community discussions
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta Tech Talks, meetups starting January 2019 with Jakarta EE NoSQL

 

I can't find any reason why they should be kept separate. We're the same people   same community,  same technology. Creating separations just for the sake of it only risks an "us and them" attitude. Let's stay above that! My two cents...

 

Ivar

 

On Thu, 20 Dec 2018, 09:14 Richard Monson-Haefel <rmonson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

+1 for keeping them separate.

 

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'd like to vote for keeping it separated.

-Markus

 

From: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Sutter
Sent: Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2018 15:30
To: Jakarta EE community discussions
Subject: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta Tech Talks, meetups starting January 2019 with Jakarta EE NoSQL

 

Amelia is correct in some regards...  MicroProfile is its own entity, separate from Jakarta EE.  We have our own Marketing committee.  We have our own forums, we produce our own blogs, we present at conferences, etc.  But, we also need to recognize that we are part of the Eclipse Foundation family.  I have witnessed the support for MicroProfile by the Eclipse Foundation at several conferences this past year.  Along with the Eclipse newsletter, vBlogs, tweets, keynotes -- Eclipse Foundation fundamentally supports the MicroProfile efforts.  As they do with Jakarta EE.

So, in my opinion, if these Jakarta Tech Talks want to include topics related to MicroProfile, I think that's great!  Maybe a slight tweak in the name would help -- Jakarta and MicroProfile Tech Talks, if that's doable.  Otherwise, if we have any MicroProfile-specific talks, we can indicate that we are still a separate project as part of our introduction and then move into the details.  This should be considered yet another opportunity for the MicroProfile team to spread the word about the great work we're doing.

Now, with all of that explanation...  If the Jakarta Community would rather keep these Jakarta Tech Talks narrowed to just the Jakarta EE projects, then that's fine also.  No hard feelings.  But, if we are invited to participate in these Tech Talks, let's do it!  Thanks!

---------------------------------------------------
Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Java EE architect
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter



From:        Amelia Eiras <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        Jakarta EE Community <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        12/18/2018 04:35 PM
Subject:        Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta Tech Talks, meetups starting January 2019 with Jakarta EE NoSQL
Sent by:        jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx





Tanja,

Thanks for sending link to to enable Jakarta Tech Talks meetup group, just joined! :)
Thus far 26 Jakartees, lets participate beautiful Community.

I noticed MicroProfile being added to the sessions under the Jakarta talks. As a MicroProfiler Co-founder, I am requesting the immediate removal from the list today.
As stated in 2018 via many MicroProfile blogs and Q&A, the MicroProfile project will continue to be its own project, not under the Jakarta EE Project.
The MicroProfile project will manage via its community of volunteers 100% of all its marketing initiatives.

Lastly, I will follow up via the MicroProfile forum clarification on the latest Marketing MP call meeting with respect to that matter that continues to be brought in to the calls by the EF team.
Re-stating via this forum that the MP project won’t be marketed with the Jakarta EE project.  

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MhFrcfdnmEND0lHzDkMa2TyhhtU90OKgthhGTjpyQ-4/edit#heading=h.5kmut5p0phc6

Happy to clarify any questions, should that be necessary,


Amelia Eiras
https://twitter.com/ameliaeiras
Tribe: https://tomitribe.com    https://tribestream.io
OSS:  https://tomitribe.io       https://microprofile.io








On Dec 17, 2018, at 12:00 PM, Tanja Obradovic <tanja.obradovic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Jakarta community!

I'd like to give you heads up on the meetup series we are preparing and introducing in January 2019. We named the session Jakarta Tech Talks , and we plan to meet once a month to start with and include wide range of topics related to Java Cloud Native technologies.

Please consider this as an invite to the first session Jakarta EE meets NoSQL planned for January 22nd, 2019 @ 11 AM EST. Refer to the link above or here for dial in details.

Other sessions we have planed in the following months are:  

James Roper, Reactive Streams
Kevin Sutter, Eclipse Project for Java Batch
Emily Jiang, MicroProfile next version
Markus Karg, JAX-RS

and many more...

If you have any suggestions or if you are interested to present in one of the future sessions, please let me know!

Best Regards,

Tanja

--
Tanja Obradovic
Jakarta EE Program Manager | Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
Twitter: @TanjaEclipse
Eclipse Foundation: The Platform for Open Innovation and Collaboration


This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com



_______________________________________________
jakarta.ee-community mailing list
jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/jakarta.ee-community
_______________________________________________
jakarta.ee-community mailing list
jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/jakarta.ee-community

_______________________________________________
jakarta.ee-community mailing list
jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/jakarta.ee-community


 

--

_______________________________________________
jakarta.ee-community mailing list
jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/jakarta.ee-community


Back to the top