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Re: [iot-wg] Eclipse IoT integration map

On Fri, 2018-10-05 at 06:51 +0000, Hudalla Kai (INST/ECS4) wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 18:09 +0200, Alois Zoitl wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 11:53 +0200, Jens Reimann wrote:
> > > Hi Alois,
> > > 
> > > From my point of view, the main idea of this map is to show how Eclipse IoT
> > > application projects work together. 4DIAC would count for me as an
> > > application project, where Paho is more like a building block.
> > > 
> > > So I think this boils down the initial idea of requires to add projects.
> > > Refining this a bit for the differentiation of "building block" and
> > > "application" projects:
> > > 
> > > ---
> > > Building block project:
> > > 1) It is an Eclipse IoT project
> > > 2) It is used by at least one other Eclipse IoT (application) project
> > > 
> > > Application project:
> > > 1) It is an Eclipse IoT project
> > > 2) It connects to at least one other Eclipse IoT (application) project
> > > 3) There is at least one web page that can be linked to, which describes
> > > _how_ to connect those projects
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > From what I know, there is currently no integration of 4DIAC with other
> > > application projects in Eclipse IoT. If that assumption is wrong, then we
> > > could definitely add 4DIAC here as well. Otherwise for me it currently
> > > wouldn't make sense to add 4DIAC.
> > 
> > I totally agree with your assessment. I myself found it pretty week that's the
> > reason I'm asking. I think this is the part where we have to do some homework. 
> > 
> 
> Alois, we discussed this during the integration call yesterday as well. My
> understanding is that 4DIAC can (?) publish data to an MQTT broker (e.g.
> Mosquitto). Didn't we also talk about 4DIAC supporting to publish data in PPMP
> format to Hono? If this is the case then I think we could/should add 4DIAC to the
> map, otherwise you indeed have some homework to do ;-) 

This is exactly one of the homework I had in mind. With my new position I hope to get some students to do a bachelor thesis on such topics. PPMP is one Eclipse
Cyclone or Eclipse Hawkbit would be others. So many ideas and so little time ;-)



> 
> > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:39 PM Alois Zoitl <alois.zoitl@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Hi Jens,
> > > > 
> > > > We utilize in Eclipse 4diac for quite some time Paho and AFAIK it is
> > > > used quite a lot. Would this make sense to add us? The integration is
> > > > in our 4diac FORTE component.
> > > > 
> > > > Alois
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2018-09-27 at 14:12 +0200, Jens Reimann wrote:
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > 
> > > > > as promised in this week's IoT WG call, here is the updated design
> > > > > proposal for the Eclipse IoT integration map. The major change here
> > > > > is the addition of Eclipse Ditto.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The plan is to create an interactive web page out of this design
> > > > > proposal, showing how Eclipse IoT projects integrate witch each
> > > > > other. Showing "building block" projects (like Paho, Milo, â) as well
> > > > > as "application" projects (Like Kura, Hono, â).
> > > > > 
> > > > > My goal is to transform this PDF into an interactive web page, using
> > > > > SVG as a basis. So that we can still print this or put it on a
> > > > > presentation. I will create and share a Git repository once I have
> > > > > start. So that Eclipse can take over, host this, and we can extend
> > > > > this over time. People could then create a PR if they want to get
> > > > > added to that map.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My proposal would be that the requirements for getting listed on this
> > > > > map are:
> > > > > 1) It is an Eclipse IoT project
> > > > > 2) It connects to at least one other Eclipse IoT project
> > > > > 3) There is at least one web page that can be linked to which
> > > > > describes _how_ to connect
> > > > > 
> > > > > As an example:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ditto - Hono: Both projects are Eclipse IoT projects. The following
> > > > > documents the connectivity between each other
> > > > >   * 
> > > > > https://www.eclipse.org/ditto/2018-05-02-connecting-ditto-hono.html
> > > > >   * 
> > > > > https://github.com/eclipse/ditto-examples/tree/master/octopus-via-hono
> > > > > 
> > > > > I will really try to get this done before EclipseCon Europe. And I
> > > > > will send an update once I have the initial version going.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jens
> > > > > 
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