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Re: [ide-dev] Photon IDE, by Eclipse

Given the name Photon is very close to a trademark violation with our QNX Photon graphical environment, I can't agree to this. It's going to be confusing enough for my customers that we're using this name at all.

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Subject: Re: [ide-dev] Photon IDE, by Eclipse

>And even if done it would cause hundreds of time more harm than good.

I agree that such a rename would be very harmful. -2 for Mickaels
suggestion for similar reasons the other have listed.

On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Aleksandar Kurtakov
<akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Ed Willink <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> A newbie knows that they should install Eclipse.
>>
>>
>> A newbie doesn't know it, it learns it fron scratch. So I don't think
>> newbies are the one who would suffer the most from that change, actually,
>> the legacy community (== us) are the one who probably would be the most
>> confused.
>
> Well, I disagree here unless the milions of people knowing Eclipse IDE
> and nothing about Photon are considered legacy community.  And total
> newbies don't learn from scratch IMHO they search the internet where
> they will find "install Eclipse IDE".
> Such a rename is a lot of technical work (every single bit where
> Eclipse is mentioned should be touched or it will become huge
> inconsistent mess). And even if done it would cause hundreds of time
> more harm than good.
> As an example Apache never thought of renaming it's http server to
> some crazy name it was just suffixed with "http server" just like
> Eclipse was suffixed with "IDE" and this is not causing any damage to
> the other http server projects there (haven't heard a complain that
> Tomcat suffers from that). They simply serve different purposes
> (although can be oversimplified to be the same) and new projects build
> their marketing name in the same way others do it. Punishing the
> project that had created the marketing value behind Eclipse and at the
> same time creating even more confusion for end users is nothing more
> but a self destruction evil plan.
>
>
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