The intentions may be good, but sorry, I see no clear boundary.
It seems like one step forwards and ten steps back. A newbie knows
that they should install Eclipse. Oops no you have to install
Photon. Fatally confusing. There is too much guidance referencing
And next year is it Photon 4.8 or Quantum 4.9? Confusing.
ÂÂÂ ÂÂÂ Ed Willink
On 30/06/2017 10:11, Mickael Istria
See the title, how do you feel about it?
I'd like to start a brainstorming about the
interest, benefits and drawbacks of rebranding
the Eclipse IDE to end-users. Currently, the
Eclipse word has a lot of definitions (IDE,
community, Foundation, IoT, Science...), and
most only know the IDE meaning. Although it's
not a big issue for the IDE, I believe it can
be an issue for other parts of the ecosystem
and for the Foundation whose name and goals
are eclipsed by the IDE.
Moreover, the Eclipse IDE name has suffered from
bad image a few years ago, when it lost a big
part of its users, and doesn't sound so hype as
it was 7 years ago. Maybe changing the name and
branding could help in making things a bit
better and get rid of some bad legacy
perception. (although the trend is already
positive on that topic, without a rename).
So what about "simply" renaming Eclipse IDE to
Photon IDE 4.8?
By renaming, I mean mostly EPP should rename the
launchers and have a new splash and icon.
Technically, I don't think it's a big issue (1 day
of work maybe?_.
The splash screen would show "Photon" in big in place
of "Eclipse". The Eclipse logo would appear on the
bottom right, prefixed by a "by". Again, no technical
Platform wouldn't necessarily have to adopt this
convention and could keep being called "Eclipse" if it's
better for it. But maybe there are some parts of the doc
that would need to be reconsidered. I don't know how
much effort that represents. This effort, to be
evaluated, would definitely be a drawback for such a
Why is Photon a good name?
An Eclipse is an exceptional phenomenon that prevents us
from seeing the Sun and the light it products. That's a cool
Photon are also related to light, they're more or less what
carry and bring light, it's an enlightning particle. It's one
of the fastest things of this unverse, it's a very light
thing. Going from Eclipse to Photon sounds like getting from
obscurity to plain light.
Those are very positive adjectives that we'd like user to
associate with our IDE.
So, is it a good or a very good
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