Thanks for the hint, Max!
We have a similar situation with the @EclipsePDT Twitter account
[1]. My guess is that it was registered by a PDT committer, who is
not active anymore. We've done attempts to identify the owner of the
account in the pdt-dev mailing list, but failed [2][3].
The account has never sent a single tweet. It definitely uses a
trademark of the Eclipse Foundation in its name. So, it should be
easy for the Foundation to take the ownership.
@Wayne, @Ian, What would be the right way to trigger the process?
In this particular case, I would suggest that the Eclipse Foundation
has the ownership of the @EclipsePDT account and add one or more PDT
committers as admins or contributors in TweetDeck.
[1] https://twitter.com/EclipsePDT
[2] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/pdt-dev/msg03168.html
[3] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/pdt-dev/msg03245.html
Thanks,
Kaloyan
On 02/03/2017 02:01 AM, Max Rydahl
Andersen wrote:
On 1 Feb 2017, at 16:53, Fabio Zadrozny wrote:
As a note, it seems those names are
already taken on Twitter:
@Eclipse https://twitter.com/Eclipse
@EclipseIDE: https://twitter.com/EclipseIDE
(so, it may not even be possible to use those names).
fyi, you can get twitter handles from stagnant accounts if
you can present a trademark on the name.
Just need someone from Foundation to do the request.
See https://support.twitter.com/articles/15362 and
https://support.twitter.com/articles/18367
I've done it myself in past and it is pretty straightforward as
long as you have the trademark.
/max
Cheers,
Fabio
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Marcel Bruch
<marcel.bruch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
This part of the discussion is missing
the key point Mike raised:
@eclipse or @eclipseIDE does not make clear whether it will be
about PHP,
Java, or C. Personally, I would not follow an account that
mostly talks
about C or PHP features.
Similar to what Lars said, IMHO it rather needs to be “one
twitter account
per language”.
As Ian said, many projects have their own twitter account.
As a simple solution (w/o requiring too much additional work),
I could
imagine to set up a retweet bot that (i) follows multiple
Eclipse project
accounts and individuals and (ii) simply retweets their tweets
- maybe if
the tweet contains a certain #hashtag.
How is that? Does not require (too much of) a human resource.
Is
decentralized / community driven.
This leaves us only with the questions how get the twitter
handle right
for Java, PHP etc. developers.
Cheers,
Marcel
On 01 Feb 2017, at 16:18, Doug Schaefer
<dschaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What does the splash screen say when you start up the IDE? It
says
“eclipse”. That’s what the millions of Eclipse users see and
that’s what
they call it. Everyone I run into who’s outside the tight
inner circle of
Eclipse calls it that. Not even IDE, just “Eclipse”.
If you want to change that perception in the market, then come
up with a
new name and spend the proper marketing dollars so that
everyone gets it.
Though at this point it might be easier to rename the
Foundation :).
Doug.
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Subject: Re: [ide-dev] An EclipseIDE social media account?
On 02/01/2017 03:27 PM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:
But then surely you must see that calling the Twitter handle
"@EclipseIDE"
is at least confusing --- and probably impolite --- for the
other IDE
platforms also hosted by the Eclipse Foundation.
We could ask them.
@Simon @Steve @Tyler @Nedelcho: would an @EclipseIDE Twitter
account
focused on the "historical" Eclipse IDE seem impolite to you
and your
project?
I personally believe that since other IDEs are properly
branded and were
branded with another name since their inception, the confusion
is not that
strong. Users make fully difference between Che, Dirigible,
Orion and what
they currently still call `Eclipse`.
And even so, an underlying question is how do we remove this
confusion?
Some abilities to properly market the Eclipse IDE are
currently stuck by
the fact that there are other IDEs going on and that `Eclipse
IDE` has
become a too generic name after 10 years. So we would need to
name the
`Eclipse IDE` something else. What would be the procedure to
get started?
Does it require board approval? Are there alternative way to
communicate
about a product that we cannot even name on Twitter without
risk of being
confusing and impolite?
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Eclipse developer for Red Hat Developers
<http://developers.redhat.com/>
My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com/> - My
Tweets
<http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
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