Le 18/10/2013 12:27, Mickael Istria a
Mostly because we're stuck at having great perfect plans and nothing
else will happen if we don't take this into account.
On 10/18/2013 11:50 AM, Cédric Brun
IMO, the debate has turned too much into "how to get more money?",
and has lost focus on the possible IDE improvements.
I find the idea of "let's make the member companies, which are
already paying big bucks and time to the Eclipse projects, which
have their own agenda and business model which is often building
(and sometime sell) a better IDE than the Eclipse one, to fund this
work" quite ... twisted.
said, since we are speaking about business:
This kind of price (30$ for instance) is so cheap it means IMO :
I'm trying to figure out how an employee can ask his boss to pay
30$ for the reasons you mentioned, and I have to admit that a
pragmatic boss wouldn't see much benefit compared to using the
free version. If the company is small and has a quick purchase
process, it may work in a few cases. In big companies, it would
take much time to get the purchase request approved, and such big
companies have policies against individual software purchase and
prefer to deal with multi-users licenses.
- some employees will pay for it not even asking their boss, just
because they want to have better confort and/or showoff their
- some companies will be ok by paying it through classic expense
account, just like train, restaurant or whatever.
But in the end these are only speculations. How does the competition
sell ? Looking through the various social networks like reddits
& co, some people are deciding to pay for it on their own
because they like it better and often against the company policy. It
looks more like a lot of "small" purchases than a few big ones.
would happen in that case, would a big software company only pay
30$ for some configuration and branding of their main development
tool used by 1000 developers?
I'm paying crappy apps for my phone, especially when I can show off,
I paied for Eclipse plugins from time to time. I pay for tools which
makes my life easier, I even paied for Linux distributions just to
have a slightly better package and support them. Individual
developpers are *paying* 179$ for a individual license of IntelliJ.
* It's almost impossible to get money from developers.
I might be wrong, I just wanted to point out : it doesn't look
to hard to have a try...
It's possible to get money from companies, but it should be much
more that 30$. So you'll need to set up a license system for
multi-users, which is very complicated.
You need to find a company which business model revolves around
building the greatest IDE possible knowning Eclipse users will get
it for free. Or a company which uses and deploy Eclipse a lot but
are they really looking for non-stagnation ? Aren't they mostly
interested in support, maintainance and compatibility ? And, by the
way funding from a big player and such a bundle can work together.
thinking such service would be a nice offering for Eclipse members
(who already paid), or could be a valid business for a company who
sells support for Eclipse IDE (is there already one?). But I don't
see how this would make the IDE better.
By the statement that : what we cash is injected in the projects to
make the IDE better.
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