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Re: [ee4j-pmc] ACTION: Release Reviews
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Bill,I'll offer these insights... First
of all, I agree with you that the Eclipse processes are sometimes difficult
to figure out. Getting all of the required approvals, notes, etc
in place before we could release various MicroProfile releases was a pain.
But, on the plus side, the Eclipse team has been very willing to
work with us to get it all figured out in time. We haven't missed
a desired release date yet for MicroProfile. And, as you do a release
or two, all of this becomes much easier. So, even though I agree
that the process documentation could be better, it does seem workable and
Wayne and the rest of the Eclipse team are ready to help out. Just
my two cents worth...
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Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Java EE architect
e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutterFrom:
Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>To:
EE4J PMC Discussions
<ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Wayne Beaton <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Date:
11/13/2018 12:35 AMSubject:
Re: [ee4j-pmc]
ACTION: Release ReviewsSent by:
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Maybe it's not apparent to you, but many people are just
not going to read the handbook from beginning to end (although I've tried),
and a recommendation to read it while in the middle of trying to get something
done is likely to be ignored.
I've already forgotten what the differences were between the "create
a release" page and the "create a review" page. At
least one of them allowed me to select any date after today. But
to do a release I need to complete a release review before then, and I
need to complete IP review before that, and the release review has to be
synchronized to twice a month. None of that was apparent on any of
the pages as I remember. Yes, maybe if I read the entire handbook
I would only use the creation pages in safe manner. If the pages
can't enforce these constraints for me, they should at least explain the
constraints so I can use the pages effectively.
So, explaining the synchronization requirements and the lead time requirements
on the creation pages would be a good start.
Thanks.
Wayne Beaton wrote on 11/12/18 12:51 PM:The "create a release" page includes a link
to the documentation (although it's an old link) with a request that you
"Please review the release cycle documentation."The "create a review" page only lets you select
valid review dates. It's all captured in the handbook,
which includes this passage (along with a pretty complete overview of what's
required):We schedule reviews to conclude on the first and third
Wednesdays of the month. Your release date does not have to coincide with
the review date (you can set the release date as necessary). The review
must, however, conclude successfully before you can make the release official.What, specifically, would like to see added or changed?HTH,
WayneOn Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:40 PM Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:I'm still learning about all the timing requirements related
to these release reviews. When I submitted my recent release reviews,
it only said I needed to allow one week for community review. It
didn't say anything about needing to synchronize with some twice monthly
event.
It also wanted another week for IP review, but that wasn't apparent until
after I submitted the release review.
Can someone summarize the actual requirements, and maybe get them added
to the release review creation page where it asks you to supply a date?
Thanks.
Kevin Sutter wrote on 11/02/2018 06:00 AM:Another bit of advice... Currently,
the Eclipse Release Reviews are only on the first and third Wednesdays
of the month. That means, Nov 7 and 21. Very few projects will
be ready by the 7th, so that means a huge backlog of release reviews on
the 21st... Unless... I seem to remember Wayne possibly proposing
some additional release reviews during this initial hectic time period.
Wayne, any thoughts on that idea? With the push to be done
by the end of the month, there's going to be a ton of release reviews requested
this month.
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Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Java EE architect
e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
From: Wayne
Beaton <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EE4J
PMC Discussions <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/02/2018
04:54 AM
Subject: Re:
[ee4j-pmc] ACTION: Release Reviews
Sent by: ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
Yes. The release content should be in a "release candidate" form
prior to engaging in the release review.
Wayne
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018, 05:42 Steve Millidge (Payara) <steve.millidge@xxxxxxxxxxxwrote:
Question on timing from my team. Do they have to update to Jakarta released
artifacts before release review?
From: ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx<ee4j-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Dmitry Kornilov
Sent: 01 November 2018 15:26
To: EE4J PMC Discussions <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ee4j-pmc] ACTION: Release Reviews
Hi,
According to GlassFish
5.1 release plan each project has to pass
the release review before Nov 30th. In order to meet this deadline I am
strongly suggesting initiating the release review process as soon as possible.
Release review how-to guide is a part of this
article. Please update Release
Review Tracker page when the review is
initiated or completed .
Thanks,
Dmitry
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