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Re: [ee4j-community] Community Control was Jakarta EE logo selection

I don't doubt that for the Oracle-controlled past, but let's see how numbers
look like after EE4J is completely migrated to the EF.

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Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] Community Control was Jakarta EE logo

On 2018-03-27 2:36 PM, Werner Keil wrote:
> Although Markus may sometimes express his point a little more 
> drastically, he does have a point on this.
> He did not ask about general Eclipse committer membership which is 
> free. Out of the thousand or more committer members only one may be 
> elected into some or all of the Jakarta EE WG committees, that seems 
> given right now, unless the number changes slightly, but 1, 2 or 3 I 
> am sure there won't be more representatives of "the community" if you 
> include the odd JUG that can afford the 5k$ annual fee.

Your reference to "...the thousand or more committer members..." is bogus.
That number is (I assume) a reference to the total of ~1500 current
committers across all Eclipse projects. So far there are 103 EE4J
committers, of which most work for member companies Oracle, IBM, Red Hat,
Payara, Tomitribe, etc. There is somewhere around 10-ish individual
committers in EE4J that will be represented by one seat on the spec and
steering committees. Even if those numbers go up by 2 or 3 times as the rest
of the projects roll in, the population to representation ratio is closer to
10:1 than 1000:1 on an order of magnitude basis.

Mike Milinkovich
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