Re: [ee4j-community] Jakarta EE logo selection process - next steps

[Ondro Mihályi <ondrej.mihalyi@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you, Eclipse, for informing us about the planned process.

Everything makes sense but one thing. In the context of recent criticism and recent Mike's blog post, the following sentence makes me worried:

"From this process, the list of candidate logos will be trimmed to 2-4 final candidate logos.  We are targeting completing this process by mid-next week."

It sounds like there will be an arbitrary decision to evaluate all remaining logs that pass all validations and somebody will choose 2-4 logos they like most. I think all logos that pass validations should be offered to the community in a public poll, not just 2-4 of them. I see that there are already 7 logos marked as viable alternatives on this page: https://wiki.eclipse.org/Jakarta_Logo_Submission

Having a poll from 2-4 logos makes sense only if either

 - no other logos pass the legal and design criteria

 - the community already voted from a longer list of logos and the poll is going to a second round to choose the final one from the 2-4 most popular ones

Any other reason would put the community in doubts.

Ondro

2018-03-24 8:38 GMT+01:00 Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Unfortunately things like "the lines are too thin" or "the colored dots are too small" had not been mentioned as criteria right from the start.
-Markus

-----Original Message-----
From: ee4j-community-bounces@eclipse.org [mailto:ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jason Greene
Sent: Samstag, 24. März 2018 00:40
To: EE4J community discussions
Subject: Re: [ee4j-community] Jakarta EE logo selection process - next steps

> On Mar 23, 2018, at 6:19 PM, Ralph Soika <ralph.soika@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Ok, it looks like the logo discussion is a hot thing - I don't participate in that - maybe I'm not artistic enough.
>
> But at this point, I want to thank the Eclipse Foundation and all those who are working hard within this group. They help us to get the new Jakarta EE out from the Java EE. We can all be happy that       a strong group of people like the Eclipse Foundation is doing this job. We, who are outside of the Eclipse Foundation, couldn't make this job. Maybe we could agree on a logo, but maybe we couldn't even do that....
> Those who criticize the selection process for the logo so hard, I ask: how many open source projects have you ever had the opportunity to be involved in a logo decision?
>
> So don't be so critical when people try to help.

Yeah I think they have been remarkably open about it. If you look at the submission page they even detailed why entries were nixed:
https://wiki.eclipse.org/Jakarta_Logo_Submission

If you look at the reasons you’ll see they are pretty specific, and expertise based.

-Jason
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