Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] Next Planning Council call : May2

[Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 14/05/2018 5:10 AM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:

On 2018-05-03 11:43 AM, Ed Merks wrote:

So in the splash screen, of course the product brand will give sufficient context to make YYYY-MM meaningful all by itself.  So in the end, we don't actually need to invent a new brand around the name of each release because we have no important place to use that brand name in the first place.  The slash screen was the only place of any real public, end-user significance where the train name was used, and that we've eliminated.

I don't actually think that is correct. The simrel name was used prominently on the website download page, and (I think) in the Oomph-based installer.

The proposal was to replace this with YYYY-MM on the splash screen and the suggestion was that the Foundation would determine what's on the web page, likely using Eclipse IDE YYYY-MM for lack of any other lively branding. 

Note that the installer can install any version of Eclipse and doesn't include a specific brand/version in the splash screen; it does include such information in the choice of version during the installation process, at least when it's not the restricted installer that can install only one specific version of each product/package.

As in:

There were also press releases and other marketing actions that used the simrel name.

Yes, that is of course discussed in other threads.  

But in the end, what remains unclear to me is whether you're suggesting we should continue to invent a new brand for each release, invent a new brand for the IDE itself and use that, or to invent a new brand unique to the release train, independent of the brand of the IDE?

In the meantime, for lack of any actual clear direction on where the Eclipse Project's name is going, lack of clear direction on how the Planning Council will actually be restructured, and in the end, lack of clear direction for how we might name Eclipse SimRel, we've gone ahead with the cart, regardless of whether the horse is before it or after it, to call in Eclipse SimRel YYYY-MM (internally) until such a time that something sexier, or something more inclusive (or less inclusive), is needed externally.

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