Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] I do plan to switch tutor

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> We have 4 out of 5 extended tutorials allocated
and 16 out of
> 15 standard tutorials. So one tutorial can flip to 180.

Just missed Oisin's message ... think we can just
increment WTP Uncovered back to 180? And leave Building web apps at 180
also?

From:	David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
To:	eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date:	01/12/2010 12:14 PM
Subject:	[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] I do plan to switch        tutorial type for two tutorials
Sent by:	eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

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This is a follow up from my comments at end of 1/11 phone meeting. 

I would like to switch tutorial type for two tutorials. 

Both the following were proposed as 3 hour tutorials. 
And they undoubtedly both deserve it and would profit from having 
three hours. But, since we are short on time, the other day 
I proposed the "WTP Uncovered" could be sacrificed to 2 hours.

I heard some push back about that, and have talked to the submitters. 
They believe it would fundamentally change the tutorial, if they 
couldn't have 3 hours. They'd still want the 2 hours, if they 
couldn't have 3, but it caused me to go back and re-think my 
assumptions. I was assuming this was "standard WTP stuff", 
but I forgot there are many new aspects to WTP this year, 
Java EE 6, JPA 2.0, and JSF 2.0 so that these are new things, 
not just the same as previous, similar tutorials. 

So, I'd like to propose that the "Building Server-Side applications"
tutorial be the one to squeeze to 2 hours. (I asked Simon K. 
via IM, and while he would not like to shorten it, he thought 
it would be possible). 

Any dissent? 

I'll go in and comment on and change the 'type' of these two tutorials,
unless I hear some disagreements. 

Thanks, 

= = = = = = = = 
Building Server-Side Eclipse based web applications
https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/view_talk.php?id=1111

WTP Uncovered - All you need to know about building applications with WTP
https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2010/view_talk.php?id=1233
= = = = = = = = 

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