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Re: [] Next Meeting?

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 03/28/2016 04:31 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
We need to break our habit of always demanding the best when I'm not sure I users really care.
I disagree on that point (despite the fact that I fully agree with the interest of language services, factorizing a lot, importing textmate grammars... whatever makes integration of a new language easier).
As I read you, here is how I translate it: "let's just do the same as Sublime it's enough". Well, if Eclipse IDE doesn't provide more assistance and a better productivity than Sublime & co, it will simply become irrelevant. Why users would start an heavy war machine when a trivial editor does the same? (Eclipse) IDE still exists because it has clear added-value compared to text editors, this is what you call "the best". If we allow ourselves to only do the trivial parts and give up on creating this added-value, then we simply give up on delivering the essence of an IDE and we drive Eclipse IDE to the limbos of the software developer tools.
So IMO, let's just always demand and do the best affordable in the time we have, and keep us asking and answering the question "what should an IDE provide to users to be more useful than a text editor".

Let me explain a bit more. Eclipse does have a huge added-value for my JSX file editing, it has a Java development environment for my vert.x Java backend and a cool set of tools from Amazon to help me work with AWS, and Arduino C++ tooling for my device hooked up to the cloud. (Too bad no one from the architecture council went to my Eclipse for IoT talk where I talked about this).

If all I'm doing is writing web front end code, I would agree with you. As things stand now, I'd probably using Sublime like so many other devs out there.

But I do way more than that and Eclipse is the only environment that lets me do it all in a single IDE. And I'm quite happy at the moment using the _javascript_ editor for my JSX files even though I get no "intellisense" from it. Though it would be nice if the colouring and formatting knew about JSX. That's all I'm asking for.

Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat
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