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| Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] Things Committers Should Know, 	December 2008 | 
Thanks for your comments Martin. I've rolled them into the version on 
the wiki.
Wayne
Oberhuber, Martin wrote:
Hi Wayne,
looks nice!
Couple more ideas:
1. In an effort to reduce the number of hyperlinks, remove
   the link to the AC, leaving only the one to the "Committers
   should know" archive. Its breadcrumb allows navigating up
   to the main AC wiki.
2. Instead of "For more information, ..." it may be better to say
   "These mailings are also archived on the Architecture Council
   Wiki [2]".
3. Replace parentheses which are harder to read by commas:
   ... Poster [3], the definitive guide to the Eclipse IP
   Process,
4. For the bugzilla reference, avoid unnecessary text:
   "In fact, the document is currently under review [4] for
   its next iteration" where [4] refers to the bug.
I was also considering a reference to the "What's new" link / 
RSS feed, but at the moment I don't actually find this link
very helpful so we may want to defer referencing it to a later
time.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
 
 
  
-----Original Message-----
From: eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Wayne Beaton
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:24 PM
To: eclipse.org-architecture-council
Subject: Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] Things 
Committers Should Know, December 2008
Thanks for your comments Martin. I totally agree with the 
change in tone.
It's an interesting coincidence that I've recently exchanged 
notes with 
several committers who needed this information...
Here's the text that I'd like to send:
--
Subject: Eclipse Intellectual Property Due Diligence
Hello Eclipse Committer. This is a first note in a new series 
of "Things 
Committers Should Know". Each month, the Architecture Council 
[1] sends 
out a short note describing some important aspect of life as 
an Eclipse 
committer. We hope that these notes are valuable and informative. For 
more information, please see the "Things Committers Should Know" 
page[2]. This month, we're going to touch briefly on Intellectual 
Property (IP) Due Diligence.
As an Eclipse Committer, you certainly know about IP Due 
diligence. But 
did you know that the "Eclipse Legal Process" Poster [3] (the 
definitive 
guide to the Eclipse IP Process) has been updated several 
times in the 
past year to pick up new special cases? In fact, the document is 
currently under review for its next iteration (see bug 256789 
[4]). You 
are also required to move 3rd party dependencies [4]-whether 
or not they 
are to be included in your project's CVS/SVN repository or made 
accessible for download-through the IP Process.
In the coming months, we'll talk more specifically about 
these important 
resources. In the meantime, if you have any questions about 
the IP Due 
Diligence process, please ask your project leader, your PMC, 
or one of 
your project's Architecture Council mentors.
[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Architecture_Council
[2] 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php?title=Architecture_Council/T
    
hings_Committers_Should_Know 
  
[3] http://www.eclipse.org/legal/EclipseLegalProcessPoster.pdf
[4] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=256789
[5] 
http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/Eclipse_Policy_and_Proced
ure_for_3rd_Party_Dependencies_Final.pdf 
--
Additional comments welcome. I intend to send this out on 
behalf of the 
Architecture Council tomorrow around 12pm et.
Thanks,
Wayne
Oberhuber, Martin wrote:
    
Hi Wayne,
+1 for the intro, the links and the last paragraph.
In the middle, I think I'd prefer to see the wording 
      
changed such that
    
the nugget highlights more what's likely unknown. We shouldn't talk
about things that we expect committers know already, but highlight
what's likely unknown. For instance, like this:
  
As an Eclipse Committer, you certainly know about IP Due 
      
diligence. But
    
did you know that the IP Process Poster [1] has been updated several
times in the past year to pick up new special cases? And, 
      
did you also
    
know that since June 2008 you're also required to push 3rd party
dependencies [2] through the IP Process?
<<<<<<<<
By focusing more on what's likely unknown, I'd hope that we 
      
keep readers
    
interested. I'm afraid that when they get a feeling like "gee I know
this already" after the first few words, we might loose 
      
some readers.
    
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
 
 
  
      
-----Original Message-----
From: eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Wayne Beaton
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:43 PM
To: eclipse.org-architecture-council
Subject: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] Things Committers 
Should Know,December 2008
Hey folks. I've put together a first entry [1]. Your feedback 
is invited.
I feel a little bit like I'm punting with this first one. The 
requirement to keep things concise makes this a lot harder than I 
thought. Still, making sure that people are at least aware of the 
existence of these two documents is important.
I'd like to send this out next week.
Thanks,
Wayne=
[1] 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Architecture_Council/Things_Committers
_Should_Know/Staging#December_2008
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