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| [eclipse.org-architecture-council] [URGENT] Channel for IP	Discussions (was: Update - Backlog - Email Avoidance Week) | 
Hi Janet,
 
I 
appreciate especially option (2) - asking PMCs and Mentors to 
provide
guidance on IP questions - and I believe that this is a good route 
towards
getting more scalability in the future: offloading simpler IP related 
tasks
to educated people like PMCs and Mentors.
 
I 
understand that a critical resource to making this happen 
successfully
is very good documentation of IP related things on the 
Web (Like the 
EPL FAQ, we might need more such kinds of 
FAQ). If such an authoritative
FAQ exists, then the PMC and the 
Mentors can answer questions by
pointing to the FAQ, saying like "In my 
understanding, the Foundation's
stance on your issue is clearly stated in 
that FAQ entry".
 
Talking as the Architecture Council, however, one thing seems to 
be
missing here: an official channel for us (mentors in this case) 
to
escalate or discuss IP related 
questions.
 
As it stands, it seems that people are very reluctant answering IP 
related questions in public channels such as bugzilla. I'm thus 
wondering whether we could install some kind of channel on 
which
for this channel, from my point of view:
  - 
  Visible 
  to Mentors / IP staff only in order to ensure open 
  discussions 
- 
  Archived in some way to allow new Mentors look at previous 
  
 discussions -- ideally, resolved discussions would go into the
 IP/Legal 
  FAQ mentioned before, then the discussion medium
 doesn't necessarily nead 
  archival
 
- 
  Be a 
  kind of communication medium between the board (IP 
 Advisory Council) and 
  the AC, that is: allow the AC to ask for
 topic things to be discussed at 
  the Board, and Board answers
 to be routed back to the 
  AC
 
- 
  Timely discussion on both 
  sides 
What are your thoughts about such a channel? Would it make sense
to 
reinstate "IPBugs" for discussion on IPZilla? These would be 
visible
to all committers, but it seems better than Bugzilla which is open 
to the public. Another option would be a bugzilla flag like the 
one
 
To be more concrete, two IP related questions currently under the
AC's 
custody are kind of awaiting your comments: Bug 246945 [3] 
- 
Best practices for interfacing with libs that are not EPL 
compatible,
and bug 
249959 [4] - Copyright headers for checked-in generated  
sources. 
 
 
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical 
Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project 
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
 
 
  
  
  When I last wrote to you all it was to let you know 
  that we had a particularly large package that was creating delays in reviewing 
  the IP you have submitted for our review.  The good news is that we are 
  3/4 way there.  The bad news is that there's still 1/4 to go.  
  Replying to your questions and concerns is an important part of our jobs and 
  we make every effort to respond as quickly as well can, increasingly at the expense of code 
  review.   The cumulative 
  effect is an increasing backlog.   There are two things we are going 
  to do to help address this issue:
   
  (1)  The entire IP Team is going to avoid all 
  email/IPZilla discussion this week.  We will use the added time to 
  finish the large package under review and clear some of the backlog.  If 
  you have something truly urgent, send an email to me with "URGENT" in the 
  subject line or feel free to give me a call.  
   
  (2)  We are going to ask the PMCs and Mentors to 
  the Projects to more actively provide guidance on the IP process, and 
  encourage the Projects to seek out their support.  While we 
  recognize that the PMCs and Mentors may not know all the answers, rest assured 
  that we will be there to help.  Our hope is that in supporting 
  the PMCs and Mentors in providing this guidance we will be better able to 
  scale.
   
  We appreciate your patience as we work to serve you 
  better.
   
  Regards,
  Janet
   
  
  Janet Campbell
  Legal Counsel & Manager, 
  Intellectual Property
  Phone:  +1.613.224.9461, x.229 
  (GMT -5)
  Fax:  
+1.613.224.5172
  janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx