From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:52 AM
To: DSDP PMC list
Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] Re: the portal and election approval by the PMC
Hi Bjorn,
I think the goal of the discussion was to initiate and allow some
discussion among the PMC before the vote was carved in stone.
I could imagine that a PMC voting period of e.g. 3 days might
suffice.
My personal opinion is that I'm ok with any single PMC member
approving on behalf of the whole PMC, but any other PMC should be able to veto
that later on. This might be facilitated by the Portal sending out a note when
PMC vote is requested, another note when a single PMC member has voted, such
that Vetos can also be conducted on the Portal after the fact.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:47 PM
To: dsdp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dsdp-pmc] Re: the portal and election approval by the PMC
DSDP PMC Members,
I noticed the discussion about the portal and the PMC approving elections. I
would like the portal to support the behavior you'd like, so I/we are willing
to change the portal to require full PMC votes for DSDP _however_ please be
careful of what you ask for:
- What if a PMC member is on vacation? Does this
delay the approval until they return to vote?
- Is there a time limit for PMC votes? You'll find
that most committer elections run to the full time limit of a week because
at least one committer doesn't bother to vote, so if you do the same for
PMC votes, you'll be adding another week to each election.
- Etc.
Perhaps what you'd like is
"any single PMC member can approve an election *except* the PMC member who
is on the sub-project of the election?"
And, as to the confusion of titles, we're open to ideas. We chose the same
title for the interface panels because we felt that each of the panels was
about the same thing: the committer election of person X. But if there's a
better idea, let us know (best to submit a
bug against the portal). Note: you can see the whole committer
election workflow here: https://dev.eclipse.org/portal/myfoundation/tests/swim.php?file=finished/committer_election.txt
- Bjorn
Yeah, for some reason, it only takes one PMC member to approve
committer votes on the portal. Although with the Tools PMC, it’s likely we’d
only get one vote anyway ;).
We should probably ask the EMO to fix this and allow for real PMC
votes.