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RE: [dsdp-pmc] Re: Trip report: Eclipse Council Meetings
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PS --
Regarding "Eclipse Build":
The GMF Project has set up a really cool documentation regarding
their automated build. I wish I had seen that earlier, when we
were about to set up our automated builds. See
http://www.eclipse.org/gmf/development/index.php
And click on the "Build Process" / "Here" link in the right hand
column.
That's the sort of documentation I had withed to see from the
Platform earlier...
Cheers,
Martin
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Martin Oberhuber - WindRiver, Austria
+43(662)457915-85
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:08 AM
> To: Scharf, Michael
> Cc: DSDP PMC list
> Subject: RE: [dsdp-pmc] Re: Trip report: Eclipse Council Meetings
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> here are answers from the TM project:
>
> > - are we or will we use features of jdk1.5?
>
> We aren't using jdk1.5 features and it currently looks like we're
> not going to. The only 1.5 advantage I see is the
> - Ability to use Generics
> Since most of the base we depend on (Eclipse Platform) doesn't use
> Generics, I don't see a need to switch. So we're going to follow
> the Platform -- or do you see any other advantages of Java1.5??
>
> > - are all DSDP projects currently using the eclipse common build?
> > - if not, what prevents us from using it?
> > - what would we need in addition?
>
> I guess by "Eclipse Common Build" you mean the org.eclipse.pde.build
> package. Yes we are currently using it.
>
> The main problems we had with it, was the lack of a "complete" use
> case for applying it. By "complete", I mean an example that includes
> *ALL* the steps for uploading build notes, starting the nightly
> build, sending success/failure E-Mails etc... I'd really like to
> see *all* the scripts that the Platform Releng team (or other teams)
> have developed around the PDE build. But it looks like at least
> some of them are currently somewhat "hidden". Or could you tell
> me where I find the driver scripts that start the nightly, milestone
> or integration builds for the Platform?
>
> Or documentation from the releng team how they've set up their
> things?
>
> > - are we using any 3rd parry libraries (like apache logging)?
>
> We are using Jsch which is part of the Platform.
>
> We want to bring in Jakarta Commons/Net as soon as EMO Review
> is completed. This would then perhaps be a candidate for the
> 3rd party project. Currently we plan to host this as part of
> our project.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
> --
> Martin Oberhuber - WindRiver, Austria
> +43(662)457915-85
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:dsdp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scharf, Michael
> > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:15 PM
> > To: dsdp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [dsdp-pmc] Re: Trip report: Eclipse Council Meetings
> >
> > Hi PMC,
> >
> > Here's a summary of the architecture council meeting.
> >
> > - JVM version (1.4 versus 1.5)
> > - platform will continue to compile against 1.4
> > - 1.5 runtime environment is (already) supported
> > - projects are free to decide to use 1.5
> > - wiki page with recommendations and pitfalls of migration to 1.5
> > of will be created
> >
> > - Discussions about running eclipse on multi-core processors
> > - eclipse is not optimized to run on multi-core
> >
> > - Common build infrastructure
> > - Why do projects use their own incarnation of build? (needs to be
> > answered)
> > - People should use common build (but not required to use it)
> > - Each project should gather information on
> > - problems (pain)
> > - things that have been solved (pride)
> > - wish list for the eclipse common build
> >
> > - Common 3rd party plugins
> > - a new tools project will be created to host 3rd party plugins
> > (like apache tomcat, antlr etc)
> > - legal approval required to use on of the 3rd part projects!
> >
> > ===> Questions for DSDP <===
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
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