When I opened this thread, I meant to ask whether the Ganymede projects
would be willing to compress the schedule slightly to include the EPP
packages derived from M5 on the EclipseCon USB memory stick. Instead I
created a firestorm because I just said "the
bits" instead of "the EPP bits". However, I meant "the EPP bits" in
the same way that we promote the EPP bits on the main download page.
Ever since the rejection of cross-project
testing by the Planning Council, the EMO has been focusing on the
packages as the way to provide what the user community expects: "it
is a single release and they expect things to work together". Thus,
we're going to put the user focused bits on the USB memory key
and the packages are the user focused bits: they are the place
were the package owners have stepped up and said "yes,
we will do the necessary integration testing".
The EMO balances the needs and interests of a wide variety of community
members. The projects are one side, the member adopters are another,
the user community a third, the commercial eco-system a fourth, and so
on. EclipseCon is an interesting and exciting mix of all of these
communities hence the reason we have a Business track and an Industry
Vertical track as well as a Committer and Contributor track to
complement the usual Java and C/C++ tracks [1].
This year we are having a Hackathon
for the projects, a Members Only reception for Eclipse members, a
bookstore to promote Eclipse authors, and we are using the USB memory
stick to promote the usage data
collector and the user
focused packages.
If Pascal's p2 scheme works, we might be able to have both the packages
and the full M5 update site, but if not, we've chosen to put the user
focused EPP packages on the USB memory key. Given the revised later
date for the bits to be ready, we don't even really need to compress
the M5 schedule, so this effort really becomes a task for the EPP team
(and potentially the p2 team).
Sorry to have created this firestorm by asking if you all were willing
to compress the schedule. Now that no schedule compression is required,
we'll go back to our regularly scheduled tasks.
- Bjorn
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