Sending to the group. I believe we
covered this topic in a previous meeting, but I don’t recall the
conclusion. I’ll add it to the agenda for today.
Doug
From: Smith, Randy D
[mailto:randy.d.smith@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006
9:59 AM
To: Gaff, Doug
Subject: RE:
[cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto Meeting: 4/26/06
Doug,
I would hope the Callisto Project might
discuss this issue which was posted on Eclipse.Foundation and form a response.
I’m copying that posting here with my response that touches on a related
more minor issue. I think it essential Callisto deal with this issue if it
hadn’t already planned to. And, if the plan does deal with the
issue… my apologies for wasting your time.
--
RDS
Erkki Lindpere wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I think the Callisto release train is
a great idea and hope it will be a
> huge success. But how is one supposed
to get the various SDK's when the
> runtimes have been installed from the
Callisto update site?
>
> At the very least I expect I should
be able to get the SDK's from the
> update sites that are automatically
added by the projects installed from
> the Callisto discovery site.
Currently this is not so, but is it going
> to be with the final release?
>
> Just minutes ago I wanted to upgrade
to the RC1a version and:
> 1. installed the Eclipse Platform runtime
(without JDK & PDE).
> 2. installed several projects from
Callisto Discovery site (JDK, PDE,
> TPTP and all it's requirements,
including WTP and BIRT)
> 3. now I wanted to get the SDK's for
TPTP and the Eclipse Platform, but
> when searching for new features from
ALL of the automatically added
> update sites (from SWITCHmirror), the
only SDK's found that seemed to be
> for the correct version were BIRT
& DTP (Other update sites showed
> features for Eclipse 3.1 based
versions -- but would a relatively new
> Eclipse user even realise that? And I
assume Callisto's purpose is also
> to bring new users.)
>
> So the only option to get all the
SDK's is to download them manually? I
> don't like this at all: it forces me
to mix manual installs with ones
> managed by Eclipse (that is, if I
want to take advantage of the Callisto
> Discovery site and not download
everything manually to begin with) and
> what's more, actually comb through
the downloaded SDK's to not copy the
> features & plugins that have
already been installed as part of the
> runtimes... This feels like the worst
way of installing Eclipse than
> ever been before.
>
> Erkki
Let me offer a hearty "hear
hear" to your concern. I think that for Callisto to be successful the
complaint expressed here will have to be addressed.
Erkki, you might want to add your name to
the cc list for bugzilla #138244 <
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=138244 >. There I expressed
concern about how a platform download results in a Help=>Contents that gives
the Workbench User Guide whose first page says "(You can get the
Welcome view back at any time by selecting <Help =>
Welcome>.)" This despite the fact
that Help=>Welcome does not exist on the platform download, or that download
with all of Callisto installed. So, in essence, my bugzilla is the tip of the
iceberg you've identified above.
--
RDS
From:
cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006
6:20 AM
To: Cross project issues
Subject: RE:
[cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto Meeting: 4/26/06
On #1: ignore my date for RC2.
I pulled it off of the wrong schedule. According to the Callisto page,
it’s on May 5.
From:
cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaff, Doug
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006
9:13 AM
To: Cross project issues
Subject:
[cross-project-issues-dev] Callisto Meeting: 4/26/06
Hi folks,
Bjorn asked me to run the meeting in his absence.
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/callisto.php
613.287.8000 -or- 866.362.7064
passcode 874551#
Agenda:
1. RC2 status for each project (due 4/28)
2. Tim’s questions about OOM errors and Performance
problems.
3. All-in-one zip proposal: http://www.eclipse.org/projects/callisto-files/callisto-download-proposal.php
4. Mega Release Review: Contribution Questionnaires
due yesterday.
5. Pack 200 update
6. Anything I missed.
Doug G
DSDP