RE: patch for 234860, was Re: [cdt-dev] How to create a CDTStandard Make

["Schaefer, Doug" <Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, Eric, that is how it should work. But will only work if those
contributing contribute in sufficient numbers to earn commit rights. I
look forward to your engineers reaching that level to off load their
interests from the other contributors.

Cheers,
Doug.

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hildum Eric-XFQ473
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:32 PM
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> Subject: RE: patch for 234860,was Re: [cdt-dev] How to create 
> a CDTStandard Make Project
> 
> Speaking as a vendor using Eclipse as the basis of tools, 
> this is exactly the kind of thing that I want the Eclipse 
> community to fix. The alternative is that every vendor 
> creates a different solution, resulting in fragmentation of 
> the user experience. For common functionality, I want a 
> common solution, as this is a benefit in reduced training 
> time, less surprises for an end user, and less development 
> and testing time for me. My engineers should be focused on my 
> value adds, not on fix-up of platform omissions for my own 
> distributions. Bug fixes and enhancements created by my team 
> that benefit the community should be contributed and 
> integrated into the platform - exactly this case.
> 
> Eric Hildum
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:16
> To: wieant@xxxxxxxxx; CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: patch for 234860,was Re: [cdt-dev] How to create 
> a CDTStandard Make Project
> 
> Hi Wieant,
> 
> My original opinion was very similar to yours, thinking that 
> this is something the ISV's can fix up.
> 
> But then, there are also LOTS of CDT users who take the 
> verbatim free stuff off Eclipse.org -- lots of students, or 
> private programmers. While agree that Eclipse is a famework 
> for ISV's, I think that it's equally important to serve the 
> vanilla user community since that's how the Community grows.
> 
> Also, remember that I've originally seen this problem when 
> trying to create a "CDT Standard Makefile project" which is 
> not necessarily related to GNU at all, so just fixing up the 
> GNU templates is not sufficient IMHO.
> 
> Cheers,
> --
> Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind 
> River Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member 
> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm
>  
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wieant Nielander
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 5:09 PM
> > To: CDT General developers list.
> > Subject: Re: patch for 234860, was Re: [cdt-dev] How to create a 
> > CDTStandard Make Project
> > 
> > > I have looked at this patch and am of the opinion we should
> > commit it.
> > > Please take a look and see if you object.  I am awaiting a
> > more refined
> > > patch from the submitter before I think about committing
> > it, but if no one
> > > objects to the basic idea of the patch I will commit it
> > sometime in the
> > > next couple of days (but not before tomorrow morning
> > Eastern time in order
> > > to give everyone a chance to object).
> > > 
> > > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=234860
> > 
> > -0.1 for me, as far as I can see it only fixes the issue 
> that there is
> 
> > not an 'Empty Project' by default for each project type, 
> but that is 
> > something any ISV can already fix using the current template 
> > mechanism.
> > So my suggestion would be, for now, to go the safe way and 
> just update
> 
> > the gnu templates, and to take care of all related wizard issues 
> > together after ganymede.
> > 
> > -- Wieant
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