Philippe,
I agree. Probably a lot of this stuff is noise. I used to find
frustrating hunting for emf amoung in the sea of hyades (though now
I know
about project file sets so that makes me happier). UML and EMF (all
folders with *emf* and *uml* matching the name under tools) have
moved so I
think these can just be deleted, right Nick? This will help ensure
that no
one ends up finding the old stuff. Similarly, hasn't hyades been
moved
to TPTP? I didn't know there was a cobol project. Is that project
active?
If not, archive it and delete it. There seem to be two aspectj
projects,
but I don't see any activity in the newsgroup. Is that project
active?
Archive it and delete it if not. How is *.php related to *.ptp?
Has the
former been subsumed by the later? We could clean up the leavings
if so.
If Zest gets added to draw2d and gef and Nick redoes their builds
to use
the same infrastructure as the modeling builds, I'm sure he'll want to
reorganize those (but they are small hitters in this story). And
ve seems
all spread out so I can see why Philippe will want to reorganize
those. Do
you want to reuse some of the build infrasture we are using more
than a
dozen of our modeling components? It comes complete with automatic
publishing, release note generation, dropping to Ganymede, and more...
Doug, are you willing to reorganize CDT? It's pretty easy to have a
project file set for people to use to access the new location.
Your web
home page sucks by the way. :-P And your contributing to CDT page
http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/contributing would be improved by
providing a
project file set instead of the dubious instructions that say "The
plugins
are under folder org.eclipse.cdt/all" . Where exactly is that
folder? I
don't see it. Consistent organizational structure accross project
would
certainly help make Eclipse be more open.
Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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Doug:
Mind you that changes to
repositories is highly disruptive (having gone through it in the
past)
I second Mik on the fact that a web master move incura very little
disruption.
And the projects involved are either dead and eligible for
archiving, or
have moved elsewehere (ie emf)
If you move hyades, cobol, emf and uml2 under an /archive dir, I doubt
anyone will be annoyed for instance
--
Cheers
Philippe
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Schaefer [mailto:DSchaefer@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:29 PM
To: mik@xxxxxxxxxxx; Tools PMC mailing list;
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Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] Suggestion for some CVS cleanup in tools
Yes, it really is up to the Projects to decide how to lay out their
repositories. Feel free to raise bugs on them. Mind you that
changes to
repositories is highly disruptive (having gone through it in the
past)
I've also been on the record saying I wouldn't mind seeing
projects get
their own repositories if they so decide. I'm not sure how we
go about that
since I'm not sure who owns the policy over who's allowed to create
repositories. Copying webmaster to see if they know.
Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
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Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] Suggestion for some CVS cleanup in tools
Some other +1s for this:
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tools-pmc/msg00167.html
As far as I know nobody has spoken up against the idea, so
I wonder if the
best thing to do now is to file bugs against those projects
and allow them
to handle it on their own timeframe? Fyi, it is possible
to do such a
move
in a clean way with relatively little disruption by asking
the webmaster
to
move your CVS directories. When we last did a move of this
sort we asked
all committers to synch outgoing changes, requested the
move in CVS, and
had
everyone re-check out an updated project set later that same day.
Mik
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From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tools-pmc-
bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Philippe Ombredanne
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:43 PM
To: tools-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tools-pmc] Suggestion for some CVS cleanup in tools
Hi:
I would like to suggest some simple reorgs in the tools
CVS project.
There are a lot of project who have a low level of
activities (cobol)
or
have moved to other places (hyades ->tptp)
It does not promote the project to have a messy CVS with a lot of
obsolete modules.
Could we have an organization similar to that of the more recent
newcomers like PDT or Mylyn?
That is: one top level module for each project?
Cordially
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Cheers
Philippe
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