RE: [tools-pmc] Suggestion for some CVS cleanup in tools

[Doug Schaefer <DSchaefer@xxxxxxx>]

Sorry just read Ed's mail about EMF and UML2. But the rest of my thought
still stand.  

Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Schaefer
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:12 AM
> To: pombredanne@xxxxxxxxx; 'Doug Schaefer'; mik@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Tools PMC
> mailing list'; 'Eclipse WebMaster (Denis Roy)'
> Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] Suggestion for some CVS cleanup in tools
> 
> Actually, these aren't dead. Hyades is owned by TPTP, Cobol is still alive
> believe it or not :), and EMF and UML2 are very much alive and just
> haven't move their project to the modeling repository yet (one of the
> reasons I think projects should have their own repositories).
> 
> Again, it's up to the owners of the bits to request a move since they need
> to assess the impact of it.
> 
> Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Philippe Ombredanne [mailto:pombredanne@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:16 AM
> > To: 'Doug Schaefer'; mik@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Tools PMC mailing list'; 'Eclipse
> > WebMaster (Denis Roy)'
> > Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] Suggestion for some CVS cleanup in tools
> >
> > Doug:
> > >Mind you that changes to
> > > repositories is highly disruptive (having gone through it in the past)
> > I second Mik on the fact that a web master move incura very little
> > disruption.
> > And the projects involved are either dead and eligible for archiving, or
> > have moved elsewehere (ie emf)
> > If you move hyades, cobol, emf and uml2 under an /archive dir, I doubt
> > anyone will be annoyed for instance
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Philippe
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Doug Schaefer [mailto:DSchaefer@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:29 PM
> > > To: mik@xxxxxxxxxxx; Tools PMC mailing list;
> > > pombredanne@xxxxxxxxx; Eclipse WebMaster (Denis Roy)
> > > Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] Suggestion for some CVS cleanup in tools
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, it really is up to the Projects to decide how to lay out their
> > > repositories. Feel free to raise bugs on them. Mind you that
> > > changes to
> > > repositories is highly disruptive (having gone through it in the past)
> > >
> > > I've also been on the record saying I wouldn't mind seeing
> > > projects get
> > > their own repositories if they so decide. I'm not sure how we
> > > go about that
> > > since I'm not sure who owns the policy over who's allowed to create
> > > repositories. Copying webmaster to see if they know.
> > >
> > > Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
> > > Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On Behalf Of Mik Kersten
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:57 PM
> > > > To: pombredanne@xxxxxxxxx; 'Tools PMC mailing list'
> > > > Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] Suggestion for some CVS cleanup in tools
> > > >
> > > > Some other +1s for this:
> > > >
> > > >   http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tools-pmc/msg00167.html
> > > >
> > > > As far as I know nobody has spoken up against the idea, so
> > > I wonder if the
> > > > best thing to do now is to file bugs against those projects
> > > and allow them
> > > > to handle it on their own timeframe?  Fyi, it is possible
> > > to do such a
> > > > move
> > > > in a clean way with relatively little disruption by asking
> > > the webmaster
> > > > to
> > > > move your CVS directories.  When we last did a move of this
> > > sort we asked
> > > > all committers to synch outgoing changes, requested the
> > > move in CVS, and
> > > > had
> > > > everyone re-check out an updated project set later that same day.
> > > >
> > > > Mik
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tools-pmc-
> > > > > bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Philippe Ombredanne
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:43 PM
> > > > > To: tools-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [tools-pmc] Suggestion for some CVS cleanup in tools
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi:
> > > > > I would like to suggest some simple reorgs in the tools
> > > CVS project.
> > > > > There are a lot of project who have a low level of
> > > activities (cobol)
> > > > > or
> > > > > have moved to other places (hyades ->tptp)
> > > > > It does not promote the project to have a messy CVS with a lot of
> > > > > obsolete modules.
> > > > > Could we have an organization similar to that of the more recent
> > > > > newcomers like PDT or Mylyn?
> > > > > That is: one top level module for each project?
> > > > > Cordially
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Philippe
> > > > >
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