| I have opened a bug against p2......
I wanted to add Ruediger Herrman, only that I didnt know his email, maybe Elias you can help me on that........?
christian
Am 17.03.2010 um 21:03 schrieb Elias Volanakis: Thanks, please post the bug number here. Elias. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Christian Campo < christian.campo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I will open a bug against p2......I am really anxious to see what will happen with Riena once it is in the Helios repository. Most likely the same kind of problem will happen for target provisioning.....
christian
Am 17.03.2010 um 20:25 schrieb Elias Volanakis:
We certainly can talk about it. However at the moment I don't know any
easy solution (other than what you do). Curious to hear your
suggestions.
Elias.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:15 PM, ekke <ekke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hi elias,
we can try it (later) - for today it was enough ;-)
... have to continue preparation for eclipsecon
perhaps we can talk about it at eclipsecon ?
for now I'm happy that my workaround works and we can use Riena M6 for
EclipseCon :)
thx
ekke
Am 17.03.10 20:00, schrieb Elias Volanakis:
@ekke: just curious: would it help if we were using "require package"
instead of optional bundle dependencies? (my guess is no, but it would
be useful to try).
Kind regards,
Elias.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:58 AM, ekke <ekke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
...tried many ways:
Build own feature containing the riena bundles we need to get rid of the
Riena Updatesite inside the IDE,
installed from our updatesite (unchecked contact other sites)
in different combinations and ways
but always sometimes after restarting eclipse,
P2 thought "oooh there's an optional dependency to RAP and I know where the
bundles are..." and again rap plug-ins are in the IDE
so the only way (for now) we're using 3 modified riena plug-ins
(o.e.r.navigation.ui.swt, o.e.r.ui.ridgets.swt, o.e.r.ui.swt)
where we deleted the optional RAP dependencies,
put them together with all our riena bundles used inside IDE into a Feature
on our updatesite
and now it works
running RCP apps and using a TargetPlatform all works well using the normal
Riena Updatesite, because there we have control which plug-ins to start
the bad thing: eclipsecon is coming and I spent the day with unexpected
things
the good thing: eclipsecon is coming where we can talk with the ppl from RAP
and P2 how to solve this better
ekke
Am 17.03.10 15:37, schrieb ekke:
hi christian,
sorry - I dont want to give a wrong impression !
confirmed from me, too:
Riena works well using Helios M6 SDK together with Riena 2.0.0.M6
I installed all successfully into the TargetPlatform :)
...and will blog about it in detail...
redView uses Riena from TargetPlatforms if running in RCP Applications,
but redView also offers a Designer to be used inside the IDE - and of course
we're using Ridgets,
so we need some of the Riena bundles
our Updatesite has dependencies to Riena Plug-ins like
org.eclipse.riena.ui.swt
and P2 finds this Plug-in in Rienas Updatesite
so far so good
but this (and some other) plug-ins now support RAP - which is great :)
some days ago I saw the first time a redView (EMF) View inside a running RAP
application
the problem is P2 - in this case P2 is too smart and finds all optional
references
from the MANIFEST.MF - and so I got rap and swt both installed into the IDE
at EclipseCon I think there will be some time ta talk about this dilemma
with P2, RAP and Riena
in the meantime I'm working on a solution how it could be done for our
special case
using some bundles of Riena inside the IDE
I'll let you know about it
ekke
Am 17.03.10 15:01, schrieb Christian Campo:
Hi Ekke,
I understand your problem and we were already chatting about how to solve
them. However Riena's features are marked as installable in the Target
Platform of the IDE only. Thats what we tested and thats what is working as
far as I know off.
So I agree that it should be possible to use some bundles also in the IDE
since you need them. But Riena is fully functionally in M6 if used as a
Target Platform together with Equinox and RCP.
Please dont give people the wrong impression that Riena 2.0.0.M6 does not
work......
thanks
christian
p.s. besides its even unclear whom to blame Riena or p2...
Am 17.03.2010 um 14:10 schrieb ekke:
just did a test, but i doesn't help to explicitely depend on
swt, eclipse.ui, etc
reason is that riena bundles now have optional dependencies
to rap and rcp
and if used inside an IDE, both are started
I have no control on this
P2 of course founds both on helios sites
BLOCKER
ekke
Am 17.03.10 11:53, schrieb ekke:
hi christian,
if we install into IDE then we only have the riena M6 updatesite available
and choose our redview features from our updatesite
then its up to P2 to resolve the dependencies - and find RAP from the
optional package
think, I have a solution:
we create 2 additional features:
org.redview.rcp
with explicit bundle dependency to 'normal' bundles
org.redview.rap
with explicit bundle dependency to RAP bundles
then deploy two update sites where always only one feature is included
then the user can choose what to get and P2 will get the right bundles
ekke
Am 17.03.10 11:41, schrieb Christian Campo:
Hi Ekke,
Riena now comes with an optional package that allows you to run Riena with
RAP. Is it possible that you install including all optional dependencies ?
christian
Am 17.03.2010 um 10:49 schrieb ekke:
hi,
just did our first tests using Riena 2.0.0.M6
works well if used normally in Target Platform - installed all successfully
using helios M6 SDK
(will blog later a detailed description)
but in redview we're using some bundles of Riena in the IDE (needed from
redViews Designer Editor)
we've successfully build an updatesite running with Riena 2.0.0.M5
yesterday evening flo fixed compile errors and created a new updatesite for
redview with Riena M6
I just tried in a new SDK M6 workspace with Riena 2.0.0.M6
and corrupted my IDE because some RAP bundles come in (see attachment)
think that there are some dependencies from redview (perhaps
package-import-dependency) to riena causing eclipse to get a wrong bundle
into the IDE
thanks for any hint where we should look
--
ekke (ekkehard gentz)
independent software-architect
senior erp-consultant
eclipse | osgi | equinox | mdsd | oaw | emf | uml
max-josefs-platz 30, D-83022 rosenheim, germany
mailto:ekke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
homepage (de): http://gentz-software.de
blog (en): http://ekkes-corner.org
twitter: @ekkescorner
skype: ekkes-corner
Steuer-Nr: 156/220/30931 FA Rosenheim, UST-ID: DE189929490
<flo wrong dependencies.png><ATT00001.c>
-------------------------------------------------------------
compeople AG
Untermainanlage 8
60329 Frankfurt/Main
fon: 069 / 27 22 18 0
fax: 069 / 27 22 18 22
web: www.compeople.de
Vorstand: Jürgen Wiesmaier
Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Christian Glanz
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Frankfurt/Main
Handelsregister Frankfurt HRB 56759
Ust-Ident.-Nr: DE207665352
-------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
riena-dev mailing list
riena-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/riena-dev
--
ekke (ekkehard gentz)
independent software-architect
senior erp-consultant
eclipse | osgi | equinox | mdsd | oaw | emf | uml
max-josefs-platz 30, D-83022 rosenheim, germany
mailto:ekke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
homepage (de): http://gentz-software.de
blog (en): http://ekkes-corner.org
twitter: @ekkescorner
skype: ekkes-corner
Steuer-Nr: 156/220/30931 FA Rosenheim, UST-ID: DE189929490
_______________________________________________
riena-dev mailing list
riena-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/riena-dev
--
ekke (ekkehard gentz)
independent software-architect
senior erp-consultant
eclipse | osgi | equinox | mdsd | oaw | emf | uml
max-josefs-platz 30, D-83022 rosenheim, germany
mailto:ekke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
homepage (de): http://gentz-software.de
blog (en): http://ekkes-corner.org
twitter: @ekkescorner
skype: ekkes-corner
Steuer-Nr: 156/220/30931 FA Rosenheim, UST-ID: DE189929490
_______________________________________________
riena-dev mailing list
riena-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/riena-dev
--
ekke (ekkehard gentz)
independent software-architect
senior erp-consultant
eclipse | osgi | equinox | mdsd | oaw | emf | uml
max-josefs-platz 30, D-83022 rosenheim, germany
mailto:ekke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
homepage (de): http://gentz-software.de
blog (en): http://ekkes-corner.org
twitter: @ekkescorner
skype: ekkes-corner
Steuer-Nr: 156/220/30931 FA Rosenheim, UST-ID: DE189929490
_______________________________________________
riena-dev mailing list
riena-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/riena-dev
--
Elias Volanakis | Technical Lead | http://eclipsesource.com
elias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | +1 503 929 5537 | @evolanakis
_______________________________________________
riena-dev mailing list
riena-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/riena-dev
_______________________________________________
riena-dev mailing list
riena-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/riena-dev
-- Elias Volanakis | Technical Lead | http://eclipsesource.comelias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | +1 503 929 5537 | @evolanakis _______________________________________________ riena-dev mailing list riena-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxhttps://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/riena-dev
|
