...tried many ways:
Build own feature containing the riena bundles we need to get rid of
the Riena Updatesite inside the IDE,
installed from our updatesite (unchecked contact other sites)
in different combinations and ways
but always sometimes after restarting eclipse,
P2 thought "oooh there's an optional dependency to RAP and I know where
the bundles are..." and again rap plug-ins are in the IDE
so the only way (for now) we're using 3 modified riena plug-ins
(o.e.r.navigation.ui.swt, o.e.r.ui.ridgets.swt, o.e.r.ui.swt)
where we deleted the optional RAP dependencies,
put them together with all our riena bundles used inside IDE into a
Feature on our updatesite
and now it works
running RCP apps and using a TargetPlatform all works well using the
normal Riena Updatesite, because there we have control which plug-ins
to start
the bad thing: eclipsecon is coming and I spent the day with unexpected
things
the good thing: eclipsecon is coming where we can talk with the ppl
from RAP and P2 how to solve this better
ekke
Am 17.03.10 15:37, schrieb ekke:
hi christian,
sorry - I dont want to give a wrong impression !
confirmed from me, too:
Riena works well using Helios M6 SDK together with Riena 2.0.0.M6
I installed all successfully into the TargetPlatform :)
...and will blog about it in detail...
redView uses Riena from TargetPlatforms if running in RCP Applications,
but redView also offers a Designer to be used inside the IDE - and of
course we're using Ridgets,
so we need some of the Riena bundles
our Updatesite has dependencies to Riena Plug-ins like
org.eclipse.riena.ui.swt
and P2 finds this Plug-in in Rienas Updatesite
so far so good
but this (and some other) plug-ins now support RAP - which is great :)
some days ago I saw the first time a redView (EMF) View inside a
running RAP application
the problem is P2 - in this case P2 is too smart and finds all optional
references
from the MANIFEST.MF - and so I got rap and swt both installed into the
IDE
at EclipseCon I think there will be some time ta talk about this
dilemma with P2, RAP and Riena
in the meantime I'm working on a solution how it could be done for our
special case
using some bundles of Riena inside the IDE
I'll let you know about it
ekke
Am 17.03.10 15:01, schrieb Christian Campo:
Hi Ekke,
I understand your problem and we were already chatting about
how
to solve them. However Riena's features are marked as installable in
the Target Platform of the IDE only. Thats what we tested and thats
what is working as far as I know off.
So I agree that it should be possible to use some bundles also
in the IDE since you need them. But Riena is fully functionally in M6
if used as a Target Platform together with Equinox and RCP.
Please dont give people the wrong impression that Riena
2.0.0.M6
does not work......
thanks
christian
p.s. besides its even unclear whom to blame Riena or p2...
Am 17.03.2010 um 14:10 schrieb ekke:
just did a test, but i
doesn't help to explicitely depend on
swt, eclipse.ui, etc
reason is that riena bundles now have optional dependencies
to rap and rcp
and if used inside an IDE, both are started
I have no control on this
P2 of course founds both on helios sites
BLOCKER
ekke
Am 17.03.10 11:53, schrieb ekke:
hi christian,
if we install into IDE then we only have the riena M6 updatesite
available
and choose our redview features from our updatesite
then its up to P2 to resolve the dependencies - and find RAP from the
optional package
think, I have a solution:
we create 2 additional features:
org.redview.rcp
with explicit bundle dependency to 'normal' bundles
org.redview.rap
with explicit bundle dependency to RAP bundles
then deploy two update sites where always only one feature is included
then the user can choose what to get and P2 will get the right bundles
ekke
Am 17.03.10 11:41, schrieb Christian Campo:
Hi Ekke,
Riena now comes with an optional package that allows you
to
run
Riena with RAP. Is it possible that you install including all optional
dependencies ?
christian
Am 17.03.2010 um 10:49 schrieb ekke:
hi,
just did our first tests using Riena 2.0.0.M6
works well if used normally in Target Platform - installed all
successfully using helios M6 SDK
(will blog later a detailed description)
but in redview we're using some bundles of Riena in the IDE (needed
from redViews Designer Editor)
we've successfully build an updatesite running with Riena 2.0.0.M5
yesterday evening flo fixed compile errors and created a new updatesite
for redview with Riena M6
I just tried in a new SDK M6 workspace with Riena 2.0.0.M6
and corrupted my IDE because some RAP bundles come in (see attachment)
think that there are some dependencies from redview (perhaps
package-import-dependency) to riena causing eclipse to get a wrong
bundle into the IDE
thanks for any hint where we should look
--
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independent software-architect
senior erp-consultant
eclipse | osgi | equinox | mdsd | oaw | emf |
uml
max-josefs-platz 30, D-83022 rosenheim, germany
mailto:ekke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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