+1 for Amelia’s proposal. 
  
It helps to promote in broad region especially in Asian. 
  
-Kenji Kazumura 
  
  
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Subject: Re: [microprofile-wg] [microprofile] Re: Swag Distribution Decisions at DevNexus 
 
 
  
To be clear. I like Amelia's proposal here; it allows for a wider distribution of swag 
 
  
 
  
  
I have taken the first shot at distributing the 2022 swag, using 2021 swag distribution as the standard. Speakers are covered: rows 22 & 28, Javaland and DevNexus, respectively.  
 
Swag Allocation - Steering Committee Members. This
 distribution is my recommendation with the notes below. I hope it helps. MPWG shouldn't have to pay for storage now that we know the actual amounts and can allocate fairly quickly 💛  
 
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The WG specially requested the 2XL hoodies. Tomitribe desires to ship the extra 2XL added hoodies (in the sheet) to the MicroProfilers we know are active and need 2XL. If any other Members require
 an additional 2XL hoodie beyond the 1 allocated across, please say so or directly add it to the sheet.  There are 3 left 2XL hoodies for the taking by Members.   If no members claim them, Tomitribe would happily grab the 3 extra hoodies and store them until
 3 MicroProfilers from our community request them. 
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Row 31 shows the leftover inventory after 6 speakers are covered and 10 members' swag allocation. The 15 hoodies left (row 31, column L) could be distributed by MicroProfilers volunteering at the Jakarta
 EE booth during DevNexus or similar.  
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Based on stats: Javaland speakers get 1 more Medium than Large. 
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Based on stats: DevNexus speakers get 1 more Large than Medium.  
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Column L shows what everyone gets and what is left using the feedback provided thus far. 
  
 
  
 
  
Responding once to the same question, I hope that's OK. I've updated the spreadsheet with the swag amounts purchased with the 2022 budget. The Foundation indeed only purchased hoodies on our behalf and stickers. 
These are now sitting in a warehouse in North America. If these are not shipped soon, the warehouse will begin to charge a storage fee, which will come out of the 2023 budget. 
Is there anything else you wanted to inquire about on this to help us move forward on decision making in a timely fashion? 
On 2/21/2023 4:00 PM, Amelia Eiras wrote: 
 
Can you please update the Swag 2022 spreadsheet, row 2 (fill
 in the amounts)? How much swag was purchased on MP hoodies and stickers using the $15,000? 
 
 Feb 16th- MPWG forum email provides my feedback on Javaland's speaker coverage.  It also
 provides tracing reference to swag resolutions between the EF team and the WG from Dec 2022 as follows: 
 
The swag pricing estimate was provided on Dec 8th. Swag
 price 
 
 
  
 
  
Folks, 
 
DevNexus is coming up much faster than one might realize and we need to  
nail down decisions very soon. In that spirit I ask that we all weigh in  
on the following promptly. 
 
* Emily, Edwin and Josh have MicroProfile related talks. So far, the  
consensus appears to be that we send them 10 shirts and 100 stickers  
each to distribute during their talks. I think this is a sensible use of  
money and the numbers make overall sense given about 40 people per talk  
is a reasonable attendance number to expect at DevNexus. 
 
* I think just doing the above is way under-utilizing the opportunity  
that DevNexus represents. We should be looking to do much more for  
several good reasons. It does seem like DevNexus has basically displaced  
JavaOne as the premier Java conference (makes me a tiny bit sad but such  
is life). The majority in terms of the core Java community seems to show  
up there in one way or the other. The MicroProfile vendor booth presence  
seems exceptionally strong perhaps as a result. Three of the vendors -  
Microsoft, IBM and Payara are willing to help distribute swag from their  
booth. To boot, North American destinations are very shipping cost  
friendly. I suggest we use our swag dollars to maximize our impact at  
DevNexus. The total attendance at DevNexus is ~1000+. I suggest we look  
to send ~200 hoodies and ~1K stickers to distribute from the booths,  
with both attendees and community leaders in mind. As a nice side  
effect, this basically uses up our leftover 2022 budget (see potentially  
very important note below on this). 
 
Can you kindly share your thoughts on the items above in a timely  
fashion so we can properly wrap up this important decision and move  
forward? This is especially true of working group members, where this  
money mostly comes from. 
 
Thanks, 
Reza 
 
P.S.: One important consideration is spending swag with the 2022 budget  
very soon, especially for working group members. I am not an accountant,  
but utilizing OpEx money too late after the budget period is over can be  
a very dicey matter in terms of tax audits (and non-profits like the  
Eclipse Foundation are audited surprisingly often). I believe we should  
play it safe and try to spend the 2022 money promptly and move on in a  
timely fashion to the 2023 budget money. March/April may already be  
getting into dicey territory. 
 
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