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Re: [jakartaee-spec-project-leads] XML namespace under Jakarta
Very nice, thank you!  Can you make it so the first column doesn't scroll?  The spreadsheet is very wide and it's hard to correlate the schema name with the owner.

Also, the batch file schema source being adoc files seems very weird, are you sure that's correct?  If I click on the links, what's displayed looks like a normal xsd file; I don't know why they're named as adoc files.

Note also that all the schemas in the jakartaee-schemas repo are generated files.  They're generated using a _javascript_ program run with the Mozilla Rhino scripting engine that processes some files that define parts of the schema.   The source links in the spreadsheet (*.xsds - xsd source) point to the top level source file for each of the schemas.

Finally, note that most of the files managed in the jakartaee-schemas repo are "owned" by the various spec projects that define them.  We should decide whether Committers from some of these other spec projects should also be Committers on the platform project in order to maintain their schemas, or whether we can just depend on them submitting pull requests to get their changes incorporated.


Ivar Grimstad wrote on 3/18/20 3:50 AM:
Hi,

I have created a spreadsheet with a list of the schemas for Jakarta EE 9 and the projects responsible for them. 
Please have a look and add/edit where needed.


Ivar

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:25 PM Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Scott,
We don't have a Platform call tomorrow.  Tomorrow's time slot is reserved for the PMC.

As long as the adopted name doesn't directly affect how it is hosted, then I'm good with this direction.  I've posted this question to the Issue:
https://github.com/jakartaee/jakarta.ee/issues/592#issuecomment-581576314

Thanks.

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From:        Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx>
To:        JakartaEE Spec Project Leadership discussions <jakartaee-spec-project-leads@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        02/03/2020 12:16
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-spec-project-leads] XML namespace under Jakarta
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This issue is holding up RC releases as one cannot have a proposed final release without the schemas having a proper namespace. Can we just bring this up for a decision on tomorrow's platform call and move to adopt https://xmlns.jakarta.ee/xml/ns/jakartaee xas the namespace? The details of the 592 issue regarding how this is hosted under the jakarta.eewebsite can be resolved in parallel.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:01 AM Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all,

Thanks, Bill and Gunnar for providing input! 
I have created an issue here: https://github.com/jakartaee/jakarta.ee/issues/592
Please comment on this issue if you see something I have missed or that is wrong... 

Ivar
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 8:28 AM Gunnar Morling <gmorling@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks for the info, nice timing :)

If it actually should be a resolveable URL, I'd suggest to go for http*s*, so to play nicely with the general trend towards TLS by default.

That said, does it really have to be a resolveable URL to begin with, or was it also considered to use an URN namespace (https://www.w3.org/TR/uri-clarification/#urn-namespaces)? Such as "urn:jakartaee:validation:configuration"?

I've been bitten a few times in the past where misconfigured tools or libraries would try and download a schema from the given namespace URL instead of using a local version of the file. That issue is avoided by using URN namespaces which don't create the perception of being resolveable URLs to begin with.

Both would work from my PoV, but I thought I'd bring it up so do see what others here think.

Best,

--Gunnar


----- Original Message -----

> From: "Bill Shannon" <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "JakartaEE Spec Project Leadership discussions"
> <jakartaee-spec-project-leads@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Steve Millidge (Payara)"
> <steve.millidge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 January, 2020 8:22:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [jakartaee-spec-project-leads] XML namespace under Jakarta

> Just for the record, the proposed path was
> to replace http://xmlns.jcp.org/xml/ns/javaee/... with
> http://jakarta.ee/xml/ns/jakartaee/...

> So if the old URL has "javaee" in the file name part of the path,
> it would be replaced by "jakartaee" in the file name part of the new
> path, and the host would change to jakarta.ee.

> But we need to wait for Ivar and Eclipse to make a final decision.
> They might decide that they want a subdomain (xmlns.jakarta.ee)
> to better be able to split the traffic based on load.

> Steve Millidge (Payara) wrote on 1/14/20 2:05 PM:
> > This was discussed on the platform call today. My recollection is that Ivar
> > was going to discuss internally at Eclipse and get a resolvable URL we can
> > use on the Jakarta.ee website and once that is agreed we'll put out a
> > namespace recommendation. I think the idea was to add also add jakartaee
> > in the path before the spec name as well as the hostname.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jakartaee-spec-project-leads-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > <jakartaee-spec-project-leads-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Gunnar
> > Morling
> > Sent: 14 January 2020 21:43
> > To: JakartaEE Spec Project Leadership discussions
> > <jakartaee-spec-project-leads@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [jakartaee-spec-project-leads] XML namespace under Jakarta
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Is there already an agreed on shared namespace prefix for XML descriptors
> > of the different specs?
> >
> > E.g. in Bean Validation we have
> > http://xmlns.jcp.org/xml/ns/validation/configurationand
> > http://xmlns.jcp.org/xml/ns/validation/mapping; is there any pattern to
> > adopt for Jakarta EE 9?
> >
> > If there's none yet, something like
> > https://xmlns.jakarta.ee/xml/ns/validation/configurationmight be a first
> > idea? Or rather something that doesn't indicate an actually resolveable
> > URL?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --Gunnar
> >
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