| Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Updated target date for Jakarta EE 9! |
> * There was more work to do than planned?
Yes and no. We had a good idea on the work that needed to be accomplished, but the effort to finish the work was more than we expected. The `jakarta` namespace change had more of a ripple effect than was expected. We also scaled back on the expectation of supporting both Java SE 8 and Java SE 11 out of the block.
> * The work was more complex than expected?
No, not more complex. Like I mentioned above, there was more of a ripple effect once we dove into the work.
> * We had less people than we thought?
I'm actually pleasantly surprised by the number of new people participating in Jakarta EE 9 (vs Jakarta EE 8). And, I would expect this trend to continue as we dive into the Jakarta EE 10 effort. Of course, we still have a few people that are carrying more than their fair-share, but I think that will also even out over time as more developers get involved with Jakarta EE.
> * Our people were much slower than we thought?
Funny! Not at all. As I mentioned, we do have many new people helping out with the various deliverables. And, yes, it takes a bit more time to get all of these new people up-to-speed. But, that should all pay off as we move forward with new releases and these "new" people turn into the veterans and help out even more "new" people.
> Thanks for sharing some details!
One other thing that definitely came into play was the world-wide pandemic. Many people had to adjust to working from home, with all of the many distractions. Many people had to adjust their schedules due to family needs. And, even pent-up vacation time came into play later in the summer (and even into the fall months). The overall impact of this pandemic is really hard to put a value on...
These are my personal observations. Others on the wider team are welcome to voice their opinions. Thanks again for asking, Markus!
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What are the actual main reasons why we cannot hold the originally scheduled date?
* There was more work to do than planned?
* The work was more complex than expected?
* We had less people than we thought?
* Our people were much slower than we thought?
Thanks for sharing some details!
-Markus
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Betreff: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Updated target date for Jakarta EE
9!
Hi,
After much discussion and analysis of current status, we have finally come
up with a new proposed final date for Jakarta EE 9 -- Nov 20, 2020!
Our planned announce date will then coincide with the JakartaOne Livestream
event on Dec 08, 2020!
I am in the process of updating our
posted schedulevia
this
PR.
Personally, I think we have an excellent chance of beating that Nov 20
date. But, there was no sense in getting too far out in front of
the JakartaOne Livestream event.
We are making good progress on completing the individual Specification
PRs in support of Jakarta EE 9.
We have a few different ways of tracking the progress based on your preference
of data viewing: